Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by houston

What do you know? You don't have a batchelor's degree!

lol

[Tlswift2009]

Originally Posted by Churchlady

What I am trying to get across is that the people who are posting lies and assumptions are wrong. That is NOT what The Lord would have us as Christians do. The facts WILL come out in due time. However, that is something that needs to be within the TPC church body. We don't owe any divulgence of ANY details of this situation to the apostolic community. A measure of patience is often necessary in many aspects of our lives. Why not in this also? You seem to be trying to fight some "cause" on behalf of all TPCers demanding they be told the magical truth. Well, thanks but we don't need you to fight our battles. The Lord Himself is dealing with this. It is in Him we put our trust, not a bunch of strife driven busy bodies. When people get over their opinions and realize it's not what we think or what we want that matters we can be a real force to reckon with in soul winning. There are MANY patient members waiting on The Lord to have His way and believe me any wrong-doing on the part of a board or a saint can and will be dealt with by God. He won't be mocked. No amount of debate by those not involved is going to change things. I suspect that you would have us DEMAND the whole story be told to the members in hopes that some of us will come and post the whole truth here for you all to read the juicy details or perhaps that one totally lacking in wisdom would actually RECORD it and post it here for you all to hear. That would be rich now, wouldn't it?

Amen!!! Leadership is also ACCCOUNTABLE to the flock that they serve. Answers should be given concerning the former Pastor's resignation, and why: it will help to heal and to bring closure...

[Tlswift2009]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

My point remains that the church needs to be involved with the process that is taking place. Truly, no one else, but the church members, need to know the details, but speculation and rumors could be set aside should there be a meeting where church members were informed of the process and decisions taking place. That information certainly wouldn't need to go beyond the church walls... but knowing human nature, no doubt it would.

AMEN!!!!!

[Tlswift2009]

Originally Posted by Hizzangel

I doubt that TB will start a church in tn, if he feels led to pastor again. Buy I can tell you that if there was any wrong doing- And he repented.. Who am I to decide whether he should or should not pastor. The bible says God's callings are without repentance...and If the church were in my state. I'd happily attend. From what I've known of him in the past, he's a great man...has done a lot for a lot of people....nothing's been proven.

AMEN!!! Be very CAREFUL with dealing with this man of God. TB is like King David; he will make amends before God and his people {it's necessary}, and God wil restore-HE YET HAS KINGDOM DESTINY WITH GOD!!! A man may suffer grest consequences for his failures, but God can restore and yet use him {a just man falleth seven times but risest up again}; even in a greater COMPASSIONATE capacity-take diligent care with handling this man and his wife!!!

[H Gang]

Originally Posted by Hizzangel

I doubt that TB will start a church in tn, if he feels led to pastor again. Buy I can tell you that if there was any wrong doing- And he repented.. Who am I to decide whether he should or should not pastor. The bible says God's callings are without repentance...and If the church were in my state. I'd happily attend. From what I've known of him in the past, he's a great man...has done a lot for a lot of people....nothing's been proven.

This level of denial is disturbing. Even if you don't have detailed proof of wrongdoing, he resigned. If the man was innocent, why in the world would he step down without a fight? If you require proof, then buckle up because if you ever get it, it's going to obliterate the false image you have constructed about this man. He's not great. He constructed a public image of greatness but in private he was anything but. And if you were a good member, and did your duty, and marched in lock-step, and never asked questions or ever showed signs of not being adoring or had a mind of your own, you would never have seen the side of this man that many saw. Many got to see a self indulgent, self promoting, condescending, manipulative, hypocritical narcissist. And if he started another church, you couldn't pay me to darken those doors.

I agree with CC1, there will be another church. If not pastored by him, by one of the sons in law, with the man lurking in the shadows. And if the ALJC takes him or the WPF he'll connect with them because a big part of his identity was the preaching gigs around the world and country. He'll try to resurrect that. Or he'll get a revelation about grace (hopefully) and minister in a whole new way and actually do a 180 and begin pointing people to the cross, instead of uncut hair and shout down services.

[H Gang]

Originally Posted by Hizzangel

I have a batchelor's and two masters. I've got a pretty good head on my shoulders. Some Apostolics are the most judgmental, arrorgant.... Kick em' while they're down, people that I have ever met. It goes against everything we were ever taught we should be. Very sad.

I think the problem lies in the idea that we all sin and sin is sin. This is true in one sense. In another sense would you say a man who steals a loaf of bread because he's hungry is a thief on the level of a professional jewel thief? Would you say a man who has a one night stand with a woman, never had done it before, never does it again, and is repentant coming clean about his failure on the same level of someone who has a lengthy affair with a woman and has been with multiples of women over a long period?

I can see giving the first type of man the benefit of the doubt and giving him a second chance. We should be willing to forgive anyone, but trusting someone to be a pastor again in the second man's case is out of the question IMO. There are certain levels of sin that forever revoke a person's ability to be trusted to lead with moral authority and credibility.

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Tlswift2009

AMEN!!! Be very CAREFUL with dealing with this man of God. TB is like King David; he will make amends before God and his people {it's necessary}, and God wil restore-HE YET HAS KINGDOM DESTINY WITH GOD!!! A man may suffer grest consequences for his failures, but God can restore and yet use him {a just man falleth seven times but risest up again}; even in a greater COMPASSIONATE capacity-take diligent care with handling this man and his wife!!!

TB is like King David???? Wow!

[Monterrey]

Originally Posted by StillStanding

TB is like King David???? Wow!

He probably thinks he is better, king David didn't have Holy Ghost!

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Hizzangel

I have a [bold]batchelor's [/bold]
and two masters. I've got a pretty good head on my shoulders. Some Apostolics are the most judgmental, arrorgant.... Kick em' while they're down, people that I have ever met. It goes against everything we were ever taught we should be. Very sad.

And that's how you spell it?

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

And that's how you spell it?

I recently saw this: "Intelligence is like underwear. It's important that you have it but there's no need to show it off."