For those who want to know...RULES at my church!

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

I beg your pardon.

I have given the last 20 years of my life to trying to reach the lost. I left a good job making much more that I have in the ministry to work for God.

Left my family 550 mile behind and went and started a church and when we left it was an established church with a beautiful build paid for.

I have stood for Truth for over 33 years now and will do so until my dieing days.

THANK YOU.

Great....but where is your compassion...actions are just that, you are attacking this thread saying we are bashing...we are not...does it scare you to hear these things...if not it should, why would you support a pastor who abuses his saints....I would think you would be one of the first to stand up and open your arms to them...you see the problem why this continues is because other pastors hide there heads in the sand and don't look to help...send these wandering saints to no where

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker

Great....but where is your compassion...actions are just that, you are attacking this thread saying we are bashing...we are not...does it scare you to hear these things...if not it should, why would you support a pastor who abuses his saints....I would think you would be one of the first to stand up and open your arms to them...you see the problem why this continues is because other pastors hide there heads in the sand and don't look to help...send these wandering saints to no where

WHATEVER

I have had to overcome situations the have happened to me in church and everyone else can do the same, but they won't if all they do is sit and whine about how they have been mistreated.


Move on and get a life.

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

WHATEVER

I have had to overcome situations the have happened to me in church and everyone else can do the same, but they won't if all they do is sit and whine about how they have been mistreated.


Move on and get a life.

You sound so much like my old pastor. I think he's dead...but you make me wonder.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

WHATEVER

I have had to overcome situations the have happened to me in church and everyone else can do the same, but they won't if all they do is sit and whine about how they have been mistreated.


Move on and get a life.

I feel the compassion here.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker

This is not about bashing...please don't to go there...this is just what my church was like and my Pastor wanted it....we didn't think it was necessary so we left! I love them, and I hope nothing but the best for them, I just think fear rules them and to me that is soooooo sad!

Rules...
1. No talking on the phone for more than 10 minutes
2. No friends outside of church, not even family (it was discouraged strongly)
3. No more than three families at a time in your home and not too often, if you had a gathering you are suppose to ask everyone in the church so no one gets offended.
4. No home bible studies without the ministry being there
5. You must attend all fellowships
6. So lunch dates, or shopping with friends even the ones in church...
7. No important decisions made without consulting the pastor...like, buying a car(new, used, how much you can spend)...same with a home or property.
8. You were not allowed to move, unless you had his OK.

Being we are older we did not attend parenting classes or marriage classes so we missed out on a lot of the rules...but over time we learned. This is not everything, but for the moment its enough...I might add more as I think of them.....

So there ya go Thad....

That is why many say cult!

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Perhaps. Two wrongs....

I remember my one time at my Grandparents church, the folks there didn't like their new pastor and his sweet wife, and they voted them out, and then threw a "party" for them, and brought gifts...except that, in a conspiracy amongst the saints, everyone brought them a box of Little Debbie cakes in lieu of a real gift. (With the exception of my grandparents and couple other saints.)

I met the pastor and his wife, they were real sweethearts, and did nothing at all to deserve the treatment. Questioning decisions made by large monetary contributors was probably their most heinous offense.

My Grandma cried over that, and eventually changed churches, because she was so ashamed of her fellow church members' behavior.

I grew up in a pastor's home; I know firsthand how badly saints can treat pastors...and their wives...and their kids.

Amen....how awful....I don't think anyone here has said that the congregation is always blamless, never....I have many family members still in the organizaion, and I love them all, and I know they have some terrible stories about pastor abuse...it does go both way...my old pastor had to deal with some pretty abusive stuff, but believe me...we were not them...we were good saints...

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

Well then you know that it is indeed a two way street. For every story about a church member being treated badly one could be told about a pastor being treated badly. I have been treated bad by both, bur what good comes out of airing it.

It just make people think bad of the good one whether they be church member or preacher.

I don't think anyone at any time has said its a one way street....

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

WHATEVER

I have had to overcome situations the have happened to me in church and everyone else can do the same, but they won't if all they do is sit and whine about how they have been mistreated.


Move on and get a life.

I have, I am, I did...read the wholethread...read all the posts...read with open eyes and mind, and heart!

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

That is why many say cult!

It has been said my many even in the organization...those that have been aware of what is going on...but sadly no one does anything about it....

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

WHATEVER

I have had to overcome situations the have happened to me in church and everyone else can do the same, but they won't if all they do is sit and whine about how they have been mistreated.


Move on and get a life.

I'm not afraid to call any man ignorant, regardless of what calling he claims to have... if you would like to discuss this with me personally, my telephone number is 713-857-6396 (although I will be on a conference call for the next hour and will not be able to answer if you call).

My dad is also an ordained UPC minister.