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Old 07-02-2010, 01:48 PM
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Re: Oneness Pentecostal Apologetics Conference

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It only takes one generation to lose the truth. It does not take two or three generations. If this generation of young people does not see the Apostolic demonstration of the Spirit and Power of God, then it is lost to future generations.

Sometimes I wonder how much dependence there really is on the Spirit. Apparently not enough when we think the entire Kingdom of God will fail if we fail. This anxiety screams "I don't trust that God is in control."
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Old 07-02-2010, 01:50 PM
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Re: Oneness Pentecostal Apologetics Conference

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From Stoneking's site:

It only takes one generation to lose the truth. It does not take two or three generations. If this generation of young people does not see the Apostolic demonstration of the Spirit and Power of God, then it is lost to future generations.

Sometimes I wonder how much dependence there really is on the Spirit. Apparently not enough when we think the entire Kingdom of God will fail if we fail. This anxiety screams "I don't trust that God is in control."
Did you study the original phrasing and context behind this statement? Perhaps Mr. Stoneking's history should be examined. Maybe we should translate it into Greek, so that we can fully understand it.
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Did you study the original phrasing and context behind this statement? Perhaps Mr. Stoneking's history should be examined. Maybe we should translate it into Greek, so that we can fully understand it.
Is that a lame attempt to be funny? Oh, I think it is.

Congrats to Standards for busting a funny.
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Old 07-02-2010, 02:02 PM
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From Stoneking's site:

It only takes one generation to lose the truth. It does not take two or three generations. If this generation of young people does not see the Apostolic demonstration of the Spirit and Power of God, then it is lost to future generations.

Sometimes I wonder how much dependence there really is on the Spirit. Apparently not enough when we think the entire Kingdom of God will fail if we fail. This anxiety screams "I don't trust that God is in control."
Well Jeffrey, it's happened before...right?

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Well Jeffrey, it's happened before...right?

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The truth lost forever, in a single generation? Could be. But we'll never know, will we?
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Well Jeffrey, it's happened before...right?

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Has it?

Is God in control or isn't He? Are we our own protectors, Saviors, defenders or do we rest in God's sovereignty?

It's not so much that Truth was lost, a much as people quit trusting God and instead turned to Creeds, dry religion and lazy Christianity. Trusting God works every time, and it makes more believers too.
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Well Jeffrey, it's happened before...right?

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Has it?

Is God in control or isn't He? Are we our own protectors, Saviors, defenders or do we rest in God's sovereignty?

It's not so much that Truth was lost, a much as people quit trusting God and instead turned to Creeds, dry religion and lazy Christianity. Trusting God works every time, and it makes more believers too.

I was being facetious...kind of making light of the OP belief that they have the complete truth even though you can't find EVERY OP distinction believed consistently in church history....so since you can't, then losing the truth has happened before. Ha Ha.

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ouden, I know I have overlooked something from you. If you would like to dialogue please email me. james4christ@gmail.com

I sure will.

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I was being facetious...kind of making light of the OP belief that they have the complete truth even though you can't find EVERY OP distinction believed consistently in church history....so since you can't, then losing the truth has happened before. Ha Ha.

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I don't know that any article of faith asserts "we have the complete truth". Yes OPs do claim to have a truth that many other churches do not, such as baptism in Jesus name and the Oneness. But how is that any different than any other Christian group that claims what they believe is the truth and what the OPS believe is not the truth
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