If I don't take my meds I'll die. Pretty simple choice for me. If I stopped taking my meds it'd be as much suicide as if you were to overdose on them on purpose. So what do I do? Kill myself to prove a point? No thanks.
Then you have made a choice to take them, so keep taking them. The problem comes in when Apostolics start criticizing other Apostolics for trusting God completely and not choosing to go to the doctor.
If I don't take my meds I'll die. Pretty simple choice for me. If I stopped taking my meds it'd be as much suicide as if you were to overdose on them on purpose. So what do I do? Kill myself to prove a point? No thanks.
It just shows you don't have complete faith in God, that's all.
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Then you have made a choice to take them, so keep taking them. The problem comes in when Apostolics start criticizing other Apostolics for trusting God completely and not choosing to go to the doctor.
I believe it was also you accusing people of not trusting in God completely because they take medication.
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I've gone and done it now! I'm on Facebook!!!
I believe it was also you accusing people of not trusting in God completely because they take medication.
I didn't accuse anyone of not trusting God completely because they take medication. The problem is you and other Apostolics making accusations that you have to go to a doctor or take medication, but that is not true. You can trust God completely and choose to not go to doctors because of having Great Faith, as Jesus put it.
It just shows you don't have complete faith in God, that's all.
I feel like that guy that Jesus healed on the Sabbath. When the priests questioned him he said something like "Hey, I don't know what ya'll are talkin' about when it comes to all this theology stuff. I just know that I was blind and now I aint and I don't give a rip if it was on the Sabbath or not."
All I know is that when I didn't go to the doctor I almost died. When I went to the doctor and got meds I remained alive and if I don't take my med I will die. Pretty simple. haha.
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They think we're a cult because of a lot more than trusting God. People think we're a cult over Jesus name baptism, talking in tongues, dress standards, the no tv thing, the list goes on.
I was not talking about being Oneness, but Pentecostal over all.
Additionally they think we are DOCTRINAL cult which I would rather them believe than being a Jim Jones or Hale Bop Comet cult
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
No, they don't think we're a cult because of trusting God completely and having Great Faith, but it is because of the manmade standards and some of the other outlandish things that many Apostolics believe is the reasons why worldly people think that we are a cult. In some things, a lot of Apostolics are a cult.
I said "Jim Jones like cult" not a doctrinal cult AND I did not say "because of trusting in God". I said they think that because people refuse treatment and DIE...not just that but their kids die because parents refuse treatment. Many of then think we are a dangerous "mind control" like cult when those things happen. Then we have to assure them that as a movement we never tell people to forgoe life saving treatment
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
No, they think you're heretics because of your doctrines on baptism andin some cases tongues. They think you're a little weird because of the standards issues. They think you're a cult because of the abuse of pastoral authority. And in some cases they're right!
They use the word cult, but there is a distinction between a "doctrinal cult" and a dangerous mind control like cult. People don't realize that. Even the cult hunters make the disinction
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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