Tithing…Is it a command?

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by Aquila

There is a HISTORY behind the tithe and how it was integrated into Christianity by the Catholics. Study your history.

Truth can be treason when going against tradition. Tithing money is just to big for them to stop.

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Aquila

There is a HISTORY behind the tithe and how it was integrated into Christianity by the Catholics. Study your history.

who are you saying this to? please qoute what you are addressing this to.

[good samaritan]

Truth can be treason when going against tradition. Tithing money is just to big for them to stop.

I don't say that people commit treason for believing diferent views than me. Tithing shouldn't be stopped, but it shouldn't be taught as a NT commandment and pastors shouldn't use fear tactics like the curse in Malachi that I agree most preachers use out of context. To teach weekly giving as God prospers to the assembly you are a part of is what the NT commands and that is a command. Tithing is just a good application of that. It is a choice and it has worked well for the local church. I am sorry for the many times people who have been driven from the church because of the wrong way it has been taught. The wheat and the tares still will come up together.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

I don't say that people commit treason for believing diferent views than me. Tithing shouldn't be stopped, but it shouldn't be taught as a NT commandment and pastors shouldn't use fear tactics like the curse in Malachi that I agree most preachers use out of context. To teach weekly giving as God prospers to the assembly you are a part of is what the NT commands and that is a command. Tithing is just a good application of that. It is a choice and it has worked well for the local church. I am sorry for the many times people who have been driven from the church because of the wrong way it has been taught. The wheat and the tares still will come up together.

Respectfully I don't see a weekly giving command. Paul told them to lay something aside weekly so that when he came they would have something substantial to give for a need and not have to take up a collection when he came. This collection was for the saints in Jerusalem. Paul already came and took the gift. No need to keep laying something aside for the saints in Jerusalem. Paul came and took it.

The Collection for the Saints

16 Now concerning[a] the collection for the saints: as I directed the churches of Galatia, so you also are to do. 2 On the first day of every week, each of you is to put something aside and store it up, as he may prosper, so that there will be no collecting when I come. 3 And when I arrive, I will send those whom you accredit by letter to carry your gift to Jerusalem. 4 If it seems advisable that I should go also, they will accompany me.

[Esphes45]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

I encourage people to simplify their lives get out debt and work less hours or free up their wife so both don't have to work. The people who tithe at my church I would rather see them tithe less and have more time for their families and the kingdom of God. More people means more church income. I don't want to see the same two or three families drained dry to take care of church finances AND ministries.

God Bless You.

[Esphes45]

Originally Posted by Rudy

Truth can be treason when going against tradition. Tithing money is just to big for them to stop.

This is sad but I definitely agree.

[Aquila]

Research the history of tithing. It will prove that it is a Roman Catholic innovation carried over by the Protestants. And it wasn't even fully embraced within "Christian" circles until the 700's.

[Aquila]

History of Tithing:

http://www.tithing-russkelly.com/id15.html

[good samaritan]

Respectfully I don't see a weekly giving command. Paul told them to lay something aside weekly so that when he came they would have something substantial to give for a need and not have to take up a collection when he came. This collection was for the saints in Jerusalem. Paul already came and took the gift. No need to keep laying something aside for the saints in Jerusalem. Paul came and took it.

I take it you are anti-assembly. the weekly collections are taken and are used for the assembly's benefit. If this forum is the extent of your church fellowship I don't think you are following the apostles doctrine. Paul established churches in Galatia, Corinthian, Ephesus, etc. He never wanted any of these city's churches to be seperated in different sects and no doubt they had gathering places then. The upper room on the day of Pentecost was a building structure wasn't it.

What about the collections taken in Jerusalem that went for the church there when it was first started. you find the first account of a deacon board being set up to care for the neglected widows through church proceeds so that the apostles and early church ministers could concern their selves with prayer and study. you have said earlier that someone needs to start a non tithe church org. , but if you don't even believe in weekly giving that won't ever be an option.

You may be a giving person, I don't know you personally. Some of your arguments may not be self serving and your main reason for your stance maybe honorable. No matter how poor or how rich people are if they have God in their hearts giving will never be a major issue. 1 cor. 13 is the love chapter. K.J.V. appropriately uses the word charity for the Greek word agape. Charity is love in action. When you love your giving knows no ends. If you don't trust any kind of Church government you can find in the NT that it was established by God.

Many of the web sites you have read against the non-biblical teaching of forced tithing is probably written by paid church staff. Who have only been able to afford the time to do a lot of their studies because of church financial support. If you think for a minute that the apostles received no financial support you are mistaken.

Paul may have not have received a weekly salary, but he was still being supported very much through church offerings. The economy in the early church probably was very different from the way we live in the USA. We probably could do so much more instead of so much less.

[Rudy]

[QUOTE=good samaritan;1337571]

Originally Posted by Rudy

Respectfully I don't see a weekly giving command. Paul told them to lay something aside weekly so that when he came they would have something substantial to give for a need and not have to take up a collection when he came. This collection was for the saints in Jerusalem. Paul already came and took the gift. No need to keep laying something aside for the saints in Jerusalem. Paul came and took it.

The Collection for the Saints

I take it you are anti-assembly. the weekly collections are taken and are used for the assembly's benefit. If this forum is the extent of your church fellowship I don't think you are following the apostles doctrine. Paul established churches in Galatia, Corinthian, Ephesus, etc. He never wanted any of these city's churches to be seperated in different sects and no doubt they had gathering places then. The upper room on the day of Pentecost was a building structure wasn't it.

What about the collections taken in Jerusalem that went for the church there when it was first started. you find the first account of a deacon board being set up to care for the neglected widows through church proceeds so that the apostles and early church ministers could concern their selves with prayer and study. you have said earlier that someone needs to start a non tithe church org. , but if you don't even believe in weekly giving that won't ever be an option.

You may be a giving person, I don't know you personally. Some of your arguments may not be self serving and your main reason for your stance maybe honorable. No matter how poor or how rich people are if they have God in their hearts giving will never be a major issue. 1 cor. 13 is the love chapter. K.J.V. appropriately uses the word charity for the Greek word agape. Charity is love in action. When you love your giving knows no ends. If you don't trust any kind of Church government you can find in the NT that it was established by God.

Many of the web sites you have read against the non-biblical teaching of forced tithing is probably written by paid church staff. Who have only been able to afford the time to do a lot of their studies because of church financial support. If you think for a minute that the apostles received no financial support you are mistaken.

Paul may have not have received a weekly salary, but he was still being supported very much through church offerings. The economy in the early church probably was very different from the way we live in the USA. We probably could do so much more instead of so much less.

Not against assembling or tithing.