Tony Spell has church in spite of the ban

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by diakonos

He didn’t get out of the bus because he was going to assault the protester? Really need some clarity on what you mean.

He was going to confront the protester. I’m simply saying it may have been more difficult for him to keep his cool, had he gotten out of the bus. He did the wise thing and moved along.

[james34]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

This was before Peter, was filled with the Holy Ghost and gave the utterance of tongues.

Did he have the Holy Ghost when Paul confronted him for compelling the gentiles to be circumcised, for fear of the Jews?

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

nd - with all due respect, I am closer to the situation than anyone on here. At least, so far as I know. There may have not been a stated threat, but there was harassment of church people. And not just at the church.
The media would have you believe that all the protester did was stand in front of the church with a sign. It was far more than that.
But, it would have been far better to file a report with the police, but there are other reasons why that would not have worked, either.
And as for discernment shouldn't need hindsight.

Well, show me someone, you know, who displays perfect discernment...

I did see a video where the protester “saluted” one of the ladies and there was a lot of profanity as well. If it had been my wife, it would have been difficult to not teach a lesson in southern etiquette.

I certainly wish Brother Spell hadn’t done this. I believe he was justified in refusing to close church. He didn’t help his cause with this incident tho. I think he realizes it, but just a little late.

[n david]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

nd - with all due respect, I am closer to the situation than anyone on here. At least, so far as I know. There may have not been a stated threat, but there was harassment of church people. And not just at the church.
The media would have you believe that all the protester did was stand in front of the church with a sign. It was far more than that.
But, it would have been far better to file a report with the police, but there are other reasons why that would not have worked, either.
And as for discernment shouldn't need hindsight.
Well, show me someone, you know, who displays perfect discernment...

With all due respect, I don't know you from Adam and there's no real way to verify what you claim.

With as supportive as the Central City News and its editor is of Rev Spell, I'm just surprised Woody hasn't reported your claim in his articles.

Also surprised this hasn't been mentioned during public statements by Rev. Spell or his father.

It takes a pretty naive person not to know that confronting someone who's been harassing you, especially to the extent you claim, isn't a good idea and they'll likely do/say something to cause more trouble.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

I did see a video where the protester “saluted” one of the ladies and there was a lot of profanity as well. If it had been my wife, it would have been difficult to not teach a lesson in southern etiquette.

I certainly wish Brother Spell hadn’t done this. I believe he was justified in refusing to close church. He didn’t help his cause with this incident tho. I think he realizes it, but just a little late.

I wonder which issue is more important:

1. Preacher acted rudely toward a flaming antichrist? Or,

2. Government dictates when, where, how, why people can peaceably assemble to worship God?

Obviously, number 1 is clearly far, far more important an issue in today's church world.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

This was before Peter, was filled with the Holy Ghost and gave the utterance of tongues.

Originally Posted by diakonos

Peter did no have the Holy Ghost.

Man I seem to have forgot that the Holy Ghost makes you perfect.. I would say let him with out sin cast the first stone but it seems like you two have already done it...

[votivesoul]

Here are a few things to consider:

The protester had two different cameras set up and positioned upon himself before the incidents took place, including one across the street. It is possible he was hoping to set-up a situation where he instigated and taunted and caused someone to lose their cool so he could cry foul and have the prearranged cameras in place to catch it. Motives matter.

The white truck was driven by who? Is a member of the church according to who? Could have been protester's 2nd cousin for all we know.

Mr. Spell is paying a higher price and might possibly pay more of a price than any of us currently are, or have, as far as I can tell, and so, it seems to me to be important to not judge too harshly someone whose shoes you aren't wearing and maybe, just maybe, couldn't fill, if you happened to be in the same spot under the same pressure???

And even if all he is doing is for a show, as some have alleged, just remember some preach Christ in sincerity and some for contention, so, as Paul did, so should we: rejoice if Christ is being preached by Mr. Spell, even if it's just for contention.

Lastly, perhaps in all the speculation and judgments and arm-chair quarterbacking, we might remember to sincerely intercede and pray to the Lord God of Hosts for him and his family, his church, and his community, and that, even if the bus incident hurt his witness, that Jesus would help him work through it and be recovered.

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

Man I seem to have forgot that the Holy Ghost makes you perfect.. I would say let him with out sin cast the first stone but it seems like you two have already done it...

well according to one poster, if the flesh is still alive, you don't have the Holy Ghost. Makes me wonder why for the last 18 years of my life I have had to continuously wrestle with my carnal man to bring it into subjection to the Spirit. I must be missing something..

To the young lady that received the HG in our service Sunday night, I guess I was wrong to tell her that this was just the starting point of her race and that she had a lot more battles that lay ahead of her... I should have told her that its already done and her flesh is crucified and how much easier life was going to be from now on. Just not my experience..

I really have to say, if I was Brother Spell, the temptation to flatten the guy's nose would be quite......

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Here are a few things to consider:

The protester had two different cameras set up and positioned upon himself before the incidents took place, including one across the street. It is possible he was hoping to set-up a situation where he instigated and taunted and caused someone to lose their cool so he could cry foul and have the prearranged cameras in place to catch it. Motives matter.

The white truck was driven by who? Is a member of the church according to who? Could have been protester's 2nd cousin for all we know.

Mr. Spell is paying a higher price and might possibly pay more of a price than any of us currently are, or have, as far as I can tell, and so, it seems to me to be important to not judge too harshly someone whose shoes you aren't wearing and maybe, just maybe, couldn't fill, if you happened to be in the same spot under the same pressure???

And even if all he is doing is for a show, as some have alleged, just remember some preach Christ in sincerity and some for contention, so, as Paul did, so should we: rejoice if Christ is being preached by Mr. Spell, even if it's just for contention.

Lastly, perhaps in all the speculation and judgments and arm-chair quarterbacking, we might remember to sincerely intercede and pray to the Lord God of Hosts for him and his family, his church, and his community, and that, even if the bus incident hurt his witness, that Jesus would help him work through it and be recovered.

[coksiw]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Here are a few things to consider:

The protester had two different cameras set up and positioned upon himself before the incidents took place, including one across the street. It is possible he was hoping to set-up a situation where he instigated and taunted and caused someone to lose their cool so he could cry foul and have the prearranged cameras in place to catch it. Motives matter.

The white truck was driven by who? Is a member of the church according to who? Could have been protester's 2nd cousin for all we know.

Mr. Spell is paying a higher price and might possibly pay more of a price than any of us currently are, or have, as far as I can tell, and so, it seems to me to be important to not judge too harshly someone whose shoes you aren't wearing and maybe, just maybe, couldn't fill, if you happened to be in the same spot under the same pressure???

And even if all he is doing is for a show, as some have alleged, just remember some preach Christ in sincerity and some for contention, so, as Paul did, so should we: rejoice if Christ is being preached by Mr. Spell, even if it's just for contention.

Lastly, perhaps in all the speculation and judgments and arm-chair quarterbacking, we might remember to sincerely intercede and pray to the Lord God of Hosts for him and his family, his church, and his community, and that, even if the bus incident hurt his witness, that Jesus would help him work through it and be recovered.

Good.