End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[Sister Alvear]

She and Pop sent out missionaries all over the world...

[Sister Alvear]

The basic definition of a prophet is one who speaks for God. Prophecy consists largely in speaking God's word, calling people to repentance, warning of future judgments, and praising the Lord. Whenever the Holy Spirit moves on a chosen vessel to speak Divine communications, the spirit of prophecy is at work.

The Bible makes no distinction between the prophetic ministry of men and women. A prophet, whether male or female, is God's servant, called and anointed by Him. Prophets are chosen by God, who opens their spiritual ears, gives them a message, and directs them as to when and to whom to speak His Word. This Divine calling and direction constitutes the basis for their spiritual authority. God often gives His prophets and prophetesses words of rebuke and correction to those in authority.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by rdp

Umm, for the 3rd time now I will tell you that it was not MY argument originally, but rather I posted in response to Sis. Alvear's absurd argument regarding gender-usage. Not sure what other English words I can use for you to comprehend this ??


Your argument that "teaching" is not "preaching" simply because they're mentioned in the same passage is false. The nouns God & Father are equally mentioned over & over in the same verse. Will you now be consistent in your claims & equally affirm that God "is not" the Father ?



Don't blame me - you did it to yourself !



More tonight!

Good. We are in agreement.

The noun Father modifies the noun God. How does the noun preacher modify the noun teacher in that verse?

[Sister Alvear]

Paul did not forbid women to preach in the church...that is a lie...If you happen to believe Paul was giving some kind of order then he forbid any sound at all...
The real answer is he was repeating what had been written to him and responding like he did on other occasions....NO where does the Bible say for a woman not to preach in a church setting...
We all know that in the home setting a woman obeys her husband but a woman is not subject to all men just because they are a man...that is foolish....

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

most men that stand against women would not have fought with Deborah or humble enough to listen to Huldah...they would not even have listened to the voice of the women proclaiming the risen Christ...strange He would have told the women to go tell the men...

The men I know that stand against women preachers would have went out against Sisera without her tagging along - just as she intended. She gave voice to God's command and did not give an exposition of the Law of Moses (preaching). Barak was intended to be the man of the hour.

The men I know would have done exactly as God had called them to do. So where are these mythological men you speak of? It's easy to assert anything you want and quite another to document the assertions. I know you would not be "speaking evangelistically" now would you???

In fact I can't think of a single man I know that stands against women preachers that don't heed the wisdom of their wives at times. The poor attempt to paint with a broad brush has failed miserably.

You have made a bold assertion so now its time to document your assertion or acknowledge the folly of the post.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

The basic definition of a prophet is one who speaks for God. Prophecy consists largely in speaking God's word, calling people to repentance, warning of future judgments, and praising the Lord. Whenever the Holy Spirit moves on a chosen vessel to speak Divine communications, the spirit of prophecy is at work.

The Bible makes no distinction between the prophetic ministry of men and women. A prophet, whether male or female, is God's servant, called and anointed by Him. Prophets are chosen by God, who opens their spiritual ears, gives them a message, and directs them as to when and to whom to speak His Word. This Divine calling and direction constitutes the basis for their spiritual authority. God often gives His prophets and prophetesses words of rebuke and correction to those in authority.

Maybe the Lord will send a word through you to Bro. RDP! Doubt he would listen though.... seems he'd rather hear prophecy from a donkey than through a woman.... lol

In all seriousness.... it remains a matter of fact that women are used in prophecy in both the OT and NT....

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sasha

Huldah's word became scripture. Can you claim the same?

Which misses the point altogether. It was NOT "her words" it was the word of God she gave voice to not the exposition of scripture under a congregational setting.

Neither RDP, myself nor anyone else I recall posting has stated a woman cannot be used in the gifts of the Spirit. As I recall RDP congratulated Sis. Alvear for following the Holy Ghost - She was not giving an exposition of scripture but a "word of knowledge" came forth. Different concepts.

[Praxeas]

BTW the noun Bishop in the next verse is masculine.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sasha

And Bishop is feminine. Anything else you want to 'prove'?

Thayers
G1985
ἐπίσκοπος
episkopos


So what reference did you use? I could not find it in Strong's or Vine's.

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by Pliny

Which misses the point altogether. It was NOT "her words" it was the word of God she gave voice to not the exposition of scripture under a congregational setting.

Neither RDP, myself nor anyone else I recall posting has stated a woman cannot be used in the gifts of the Spirit. As I recall RDP congratulated Sis. Alvear for following the Holy Ghost - She was not giving an exposition of scripture but a "word of knowledge" came forth. Different concepts.

You both keep making the same statement and saying the Bible says the same thing, but nowhere can either of you show where scripture says a woman cannot share the Word of God (which is scripture as well, not just God speaking to her) in a congregation. Nowhere does it say that.

It makes no sense for you or anyone else to claim that telling people one on one is ok, but gather them all together to tell them the same thing is wrong. That's totally stupid, to be quite blunt.

Really, think about it. I can tell each one of my neighbors individually the same message, but put them all in my house and tell them all at once and BOOM!!! I'm in disobedience? What difference does it make? Where is scripture that shows that difference?

As for RDP's statements, he lost me after he told Sis. Alvear she was in rebellion to the scriptures, which the scripture says is the same as witchcraft. Any respect I had for him until that point is now gone.