Isaiah 3 and jewelry... - Page 81

onefaith2 · #**801** 08-25-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

I think one issue is how the "we appear" standards is presented. Many are counterproductive in the manner they present it.

Exactly.. I doubt many people who have left apostolic churches, would have left if the some of the standards were presented in the light they were meant to be. Matter of fact, if people really love Jesus, they would have wanted to go the 2nd mile attitude rather than only doing what is required, which Jesus himself called an unprofitable servant.

However since most things became "heaven or hell" and preach only that way, rather than pleasing God, it became a bitter scorn.

Sam · #**802** 08-25-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rdp

Nice dodge Sam! Do you realize that you've okayed me preaching in spiked up hair, tongue rings, nose rings, eyebrow rings, wearing only shorts & a tank top....teaching you how to live godly!?!?!?!? You CAN'T be serious!

yes, I am serious.
I do not see how that would violate modesty or holiness.

Truthseeker · #**803** 08-25-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by onefaith2

Exactly.. I doubt many people who have left apostolic churches, would have left if the some of the standards were presented in the light they were meant to be. Matter of fact, if people really love Jesus, they would have wanted to go the 2nd mile attitude rather than only doing what is required, which Jesus himself called an unprofitable servant.

However since most things became "heaven or hell" and preach only that way, rather than pleasing God, it became a bitter scorn.

I've heard very little to none teaching on the spirit of "standards". So much is only touched at the surface level.

Sam · #**804** 08-25-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rdp

Nice dodge Sam! Do you realize that you've okayed me preaching in spiked up hair, tongue rings, nose rings, eyebrow rings, wearing only shorts & a tank top....teaching you how to live godly!?!?!?!? You CAN'T be serious!

I used to go to a Vineyard Church from 1992 to 2006.
A couple of years ago I was visiting there and talked to a lady who was pastor over the prayer ministry.
She had recently conducted a funeral when someone had called the Vineyard church and asked that they send a pastor to do a funeral.
Someone who was at the funeral did not like it that she was a Vineyard pastor and had (moderately) spiked hair and a nose ring. The person sent a letter to the senior pastor of the Vineyard asking him, "Is this the way you want your church represented?'
He answered back, "Yes" and went on to tell how he had paid for his daughter's nose piercing as a birthday present.

Oh, and that lady pastor was not the senior pastor's daughter. The senior pastor just mentioned his daughter's piercing to show that he had no problem with piercing.

P.S. I remember seeing a tee shirt that said "Body piercing saved my life" and had a picture of Jesus on the cross with His hands, feet, and side pierced.

Truthseeker · #**805** 08-25-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

I used to go to a Vineyard Church from 1992 to 2006.
A couple of years ago I was visiting there and talked to a lady who was pastor over the prayer ministry.
She had recently conducted a funeral when someone had called the Vineyard church and asked that they send a pastor to do a funeral.
Someone who was at the funeral did not like it that she was a Vineyard pastor and had (moderately) spiked hair and a nose ring. The person sent a letter to the senior pastor of the Vineyard asking him, "Is this the way you want your church represented?'
He answered back, "Yes" and went on to tell how he had paid for his daughter's nose piercing as a birthday present.

Oh, and that lady pastor was not the senior pastor's daughter. The senior pastor just mentioned his daughter's piercing to show that he had no problem with piercing.

P.S. I remember seeing a tee shirt that said "Body piercing saved my life" and had a picture of Jesus on the cross with His hands, feet, and side pierced.

Oh brother, Please let's not even remotely compare the piercing of our blessed lord to tongue/nose piercing.

Sam · #**806** 08-25-2010, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Oh brother, Please let's not even remotely compare the piercing of our blessed lord to tongue/nose piercing.

OK

onefaith2 · #**807** 08-26-2010, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

I've heard very little to none teaching on the spirit of "standards". So much is only touched at the surface level.

Thats why it so important to have the right pastor who would teach it in the right spirit.

rdp · #**808** 08-26-2010, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

I used to go to a Vineyard Church from 1992 to 2006.
A couple of years ago I was visiting there and talked to a lady who was pastor over the prayer ministry.

First red flag: Women are not to be in positions of authority over men in the church [I Tim. 2, I Cor. 14, etc., etc., etc.]

She had recently conducted a funeral when someone had called the Vineyard church and asked that they send a pastor to do a funeral.

Then they should've sent a preacher to do the job, not a woman. "I do not allow a woman to teach, or to excercise authority OVER a man....these things command and teach."

Someone who was at the funeral did not like it that she was a Vineyard pastor

Good, sounds like someone knew their Bible.

and had (moderately) spiked hair and a nose ring.

Tooooo funny!
The person sent a letter to the senior pastor of the Vineyard asking him, "Is this the way you want your church represented?'
He answered back, "Yes" and went on to tell how he had paid for his daughter's nose piercing as a birthday present.

Which is the precise reason they should've went to a church that preached the Bible.

Oh, and that lady pastor was not the senior pastor's daughter. The senior pastor just mentioned his daughter's piercing to show that he had no problem with piercing.

So sad for him......

P.S. I remember seeing a tee shirt that said "Body piercing saved my life" and had a picture of Jesus on the cross with His hands, feet, and side pierced.

Honestly sam, who in the world takes you seriously? This is not even worth my finger strength in typing these words.

Sam · #**809** 08-26-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rdp

Honestly sam, who in the world takes you seriously? This is not even worth my finger strength in typing these words.

but you did use your finger strength to type those words, just couldn't resist, could you?

Whenever I get on here at AFF I check for "new posts." When I see that there are new posts in "Isiaiah 3 and jewelry" I think to myself, "I'm not gonna waste any more of my time on that" but I go ahead and do it.

I guess we're hooked.

onefaith2 · #**810** 08-26-2010, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

but you did use your finger strength to type those words, just couldn't resist, could you?

Whenever I get on here at AFF I check for "new posts." When I see that there are new posts in "Isiaiah 3 and jewelry" I think to myself, "I'm not gonna waste any more of my time on that" but I go ahead and do it.

I guess we're hooked.

well its either all of us are too sure that each one is right or all of us are afraid of finding out we may be wrong and someone else is right