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11-10-2007, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by freeatlast
Are you Caston's Dad?
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Nope...never met Bro Caston in real life
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11-10-2007, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rkentsmith
I find interesting...
That both ends of the spectrum say the same things....
On CAF...Conservative Apostolic Forum....
They are saying wonderful and halleulia about an impending split of the UPCI....
They celebrate the leaving of many men from the org...
Same on AFF...
Many here think the best thing could happen is this big time exodus of UPCI men or ministers.....
Interesting that both ends of the spectrum say the same thing.....
Is it not interesting that few of either end of spectrum are willing to extend the right hand of fellowship and move a little more to the center...
This is why we need a healer.....
We need a healer to appeal to the far right and left......
And of course here many will fire away even offering personal insults....
Just as they did with the same subjects on the CAF......
Very similiar spirits and people....
Both forums....
The UPCI Needs a Healer
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RKS,
I can appreciate your persepctive and no doubt there are many mods in the middle who wish those to the left and right of them would just ignore all of their differences and get along.
The problem is that the very nature of conservatives beliefs prohibits them from tolerating things that many mods/libs are going to do.
Do you honestly think that suddenly mods/libs are going to change the music they use, forego video image magnification at meetings, video recording, special lighting, etc just because conservatives see the bogeyman behind everything?
You need to open your eyes and acknowledge that this split has been a long time coming and involves a lot more than just Res 4.
To artificially force these people to remain in the same org. through some sort of appeal from a "unifier" would just be prolonging the inevitable.
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11-10-2007, 11:02 PM
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Rebel with a cause.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rkentsmith
I find interesting...
That both ends of the spectrum say the same things....
On CAF...Conservative Apostolic Forum....
They are saying wonderful and halleulia about an impending split of the UPCI....
They celebrate the leaving of many men from the org...
Same on AFF...
Many here think the best thing could happen is this big time exodus of UPCI men or ministers.....
Interesting that both ends of the spectrum say the same thing.....
Is it not interesting that few of either end of spectrum are willing to extend the right hand of fellowship and move a little more to the center...
This is why we need a healer.....
We need a healer to appeal to the far right and left......
And of course here many will fire away even offering personal insults....
Just as they did with the same subjects on the CAF......
Very similiar spirits and people....
Both forums....
The UPCI Needs a Healer
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Now THIS is substantial! Based on this, I understand what you are saying, and would tend to agree with you.
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11-11-2007, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Now THIS is substantial! Based on this, I understand what you are saying, and would tend to agree with you.
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Dear Bro Phelps...
Nobody would listen!!!
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11-11-2007, 07:38 AM
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I nominate RK Smith as the appointed healer.
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11-11-2007, 08:49 AM
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My Family!
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Originally Posted by rkentsmith
Dear Bro Phelps...
Nobody would listen!!!
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All we heard was an echo until yesterday.
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11-11-2007, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
All we heard was an echo until yesterday.
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He still doesn't respond to anybody that questions his thesis. He only seems to be responding to the amen corner. Why am I not surprised someone making broad dramatic statements can't actually discuss that statement.
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11-11-2007, 10:42 AM
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Rebel with a cause.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rkentsmith
Dear Bro Phelps...
Nobody would listen!!!
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We listened, Bro. All we heard was "The only healing is for KH to reverse the decision of the constituency"...........now, to say that a person or persons who are greatly respected by the entire organization can work to bring the right and left back together, that's substantial. And, if that could happen, I think it would be a great thing. That's a great example of "healing".
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"Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
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11-11-2007, 02:52 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freeatlast
Are you Caston's Dad?
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Please, no personal insults
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-12-2007, 09:39 PM
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The UPCI needs revival. For too many years, we have focused on man made doctrines, made scriptures mean what we wanted, and followed traditions of men. Now we have a multitude of people that have focused on the outward but will not get 2 feet off of the ground when the rapture takes place because their hearts are so corrupt.
I cannot begin to tell you of the garbage that is swept under the rug by many district officials, pastors wives wear ski suits on vacation, pastors wear shorts to the beach on vacation, and many pastors sneak off to watch tv at relatives and friends home. There are tons that in their heart do not believe the message deep down but have the outward appearance in line.
What the UPCI needs is a heart change on the inside and experience revival and throw the politics out!
Praise God! I am finished for now.
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