Oneness Pentecostal Apologetics Conference - Page 80

Baron1710 · #**791** 07-01-2010, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Never heard of him...he documents Oneness Pentecostal college students going to a trinitarian church and taking it over?

http://johnwolfram.org/

Yes, While he attended CLC, or WABC which ever it was called at the time. It was an AofG conference of some sort.

It appears the book has been redone under a new title, I have no idea if the new edition contains the story or not. The original one was self published and probably done in the 80's.

Baron1710 · #**792** 07-01-2010, 07:49 AM

Just as a follow up on the Stoneking PhD....

You may purchase yours for a mere 4500 pounds.

This is the email I received when I requested information:

SEU offers a PhD at £4500. Could you give me an indication of the area you wish to research and your current qualifications for me to provisionally indicate if we would be able to offer supervision.

kind regards
Dr John Johnson
academic director SEU

Oh I will be following this up...lol

DAII · #**793** 07-01-2010, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Standards

The disciples didn't have a PH.D. Jesus didn't have a PH.D. Even Paul didn't have a PH.D. Why is it so important? You're probably the same people that say unless a man graduates from Bible College, he can't be a minister.

You're right .... and if I am goin' to a bible school .... it's goin to be a One God, separated school .... not like those liberal pansy schools like JCM and CLC.

BeenThinkin · #**794** 07-01-2010, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DAII

You're right .... and if I am goin' to a bible school .... it's goin to be a One God, separated schools not like those liberal pansy schools like JCM and CLC.

Classic! That's funny!

BeenThinkin

MissBrattified · #**795** 07-01-2010, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Standards

The disciples didn't have a PH.D. Jesus didn't have a PH.D. Even Paul didn't have a PH.D. Why is it so important? You're probably the same people that say unless a man graduates from Bible College, he can't be a minister.

Apparently it's important enough to some people that they're willing to tout meaningless pieces of paper in order to have that status.

I don't believe a man has to attend Bible College in order to be a minister, but there is something to the idea of studying to show yourself approved. I'm highly suspicious of young ministers who want to be in the pulpit but they refuse to spend any time applying themselves to learning from older, wiser men and women of God.

I'm WAY more suspicious of men who want people to THINK they spent time studying for a degree when they really didn't.

ouden katakrim · #**796** 07-01-2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JN Anderson

Yes, I do believe speaking in tongues is the initial evidence. Maybe we can discuss this topic at our next conference. We are wanting to move from greater to lesser realities. That is why we are starting with the Existence of God.

Haven't read all of the posts in here, so forgive me if my question of clarificaiton has already been asked.

JN, this answer was given to a question asked by someone in this thread. They asked if you believe that tongues are the necessary and initial evidence. You answered that they are "the evidence"...my question is...by "the evidence" do you also mean "necessary?

ouden

JN Anderson · #**797** 07-01-2010, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ouden katakrim

Haven't read all of the posts in here, so forgive me if my question of clarificaiton has already been asked.

JN, this answer was given to a question asked by someone in this thread. They asked if you believe that tongues are the necessary and initial evidence. You answered that they are "the evidence"...my question is...by "the evidence" do you also mean "necessary?

ouden

You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. (Romans 8:9 ESV)

I don't think we have a choice. All who believe in Christ are indwelt by the Holy Spirit. I believe God has chosen this to authenticate His Spirit indwelling the believer.

Standards · #**798** 07-01-2010, 09:47 AM

Ok, I'm done with the bathroom reader series now. What did I miss?

JN Anderson · #**799** 07-01-2010, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DAII

You're right .... and if I am goin' to a bible school .... it's goin to be a One God, separated school .... not like those liberal pansy schools like JCM and CLC.

I know you like to kid and poke fun DA. However, I just hope you don't think that all OP's are like that or that they would argue like them either.

mizpeh · #**800** 07-01-2010, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ouden katakrim

Haven't read all of the posts in here, so forgive me if my question of clarificaiton has already been asked.

JN, this answer was given to a question asked by someone in this thread. They asked if you believe that tongues are the necessary and initial evidence. You answered that they are "the evidence"...my question is...by "the evidence" do you also mean "necessary?

ouden

Ouden,

I would say that according to the book of Acts, tongues are the necessary evidence that someone has been baptized with the Holy Spirit.

There is a poster on CARM named Forever4truth who defends the initial evidence doctrine better than anyone I've read. He posts on the Pentecostal and Oneness Pentecostal forums over there. You have to join CARM to read the threads.

A recent thread: http://forums.carm.org/vbb/showthrea...ing-in-Tongues