Forgiveness and/or Remission

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Dodging Dan AGAIN. Again Dan what would YOU have told them at Pentecost?

Exactly what Peter said under the inspiraton of the Holy Spirit, Elder ... be baptized "eis" with a view towards our sins having been remitted.

He never repeats your poor interpretation of his ORIGINAL message THAT BAPTISM EFFECTUATES REMISSION in his other messages in Acts ... NOT ONCE.

[Stephanas]

Originally Posted by Ferd

finish the passage
Acts 16:32-33
32And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

33And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.

Of course they were baptized, but that doesn't change how Paul answered the question.

If you had been at the Philippian jailers home, how would you have answered his question?

One more question: The Philippian jailer believed on the Lord Jesus Christ and was baptized the same hour of the night, was he saved, or did Paul leave him still as lost as two boys kissing?

[Stephanas]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Then please explain how men had forgiveness of sins in the OT but NOT remission?

I would like to have some Scriptural proof of this proposition.

I suspect that this whole statement rests on an artificial distinction between the English words forgiveness and remission.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Exactly what Peter said under the inspiraton of the Holy Spirit, Elder ... be baptized "eis" with a view towards our sins having been remitted.

He never repeats your poor interpretation of his ORIGINAL message THAT BAPTISM EFFECTUATES REMISSION in his other messages in Acts ... NOT ONCE.

Says who?

In Acts 10:43 he is preaching remission of sins in Jesus Name and commands them to be baptized in the NAME.

So would have given a different answer in the other places or was that answer only good for those at Pentecost.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Says who?

In Acts 10:43 he is preaching remission of sins in Jesus Name and commands them to be baptized in the NAME.

So would have given a different answer in the other places or was that answer only good for those at Pentecost.

Acts 10:43
43To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

The command came after the Spirit of God made union w/ new converts. In your view God made union w/ non-rapture ready believers w/ unremmited sin and their body of sin still unresolved.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Stephanas

I would like to have some Scriptural proof of this proposition.

I suspect that this whole statement rests on an artificial distinction between the English words forgiveness and remission.

Hebrews 10 clearly states the law with it's sacrifices and priesthood could NEVER take sins away. Yet they were forgiven. Remission of sins only come through the shed blood of Christ. Not until then.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Acts 10:43
43To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

Thank you the ETH in believe is found in verse 48 and he COMMANDED them to be baptized in the NAME. Where remission of sins is found in the Name in baptism. Thank you again. Little by little.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Thank you the ETH in believe is found in verse 48 and he COMMANDED them to be baptized in the NAME. Where remission of sins is found in the Name in baptism. Thank you again. Little by little.

Once again the KJV befuddles the erudite Elder ...

NIV:

43All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name."

The command came after the Spirit of God made union w/ new converts. In your view God made union w/ non-rapture ready believers w/ unremmited sin and their body of sin still unresolved.

[Ferd]

If your mom sends you to the grocery store for Milk and Eggs, and then asks you if you got eggs upon your return, does that mean you werent supposed to get the Milk?

just wondering.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Ferd

If your mom sends you to the grocery store for Milk and Eggs, and then asks you if you got eggs upon your return, does that mean you werent supposed to get the Milk?

just wondering.

That depend on the translation you use according to Dan.