NEWS FLASH! The Cons getting cold Feet?????????????

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by Thad

It has been a blessing for many- that's the report we get

Ummm Okay, for those who can get on it I guess it is good.

times out and spotchey when it does stream.

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Thad

and you are voting --- how ??

Life is too short to be so disgruntled...

By far one of the funniest, most hilarious things to ever read on AFF is to read any of this drivel and then look at the Verse of the Day posted at the top of the page.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Life is too short to be so disgruntled...

Hey anybody who goes around grunting all the time and for no good reason should be dis-gruntled.........

[ChicagoPastor]

Originally Posted by UltraCon

I know several ministers that have said that they will get out if this thing passes. I've not heard any of those recant. You might not see it right away but by the first of the year lots of cons (myself included) will be gone. I won't make a big deal about it, i'll just simply not send in my dues and let my name get dropped from the UPC minister's list. I think the UPC will have to release a special edition "Forward" for the first quarter next year in order to print all the names of those "no longer affiliated". JMO

NOPE, it's all talk. I think the ultra cons will be surprised to see that when push comes to shove, not that many will leave.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor

NOPE, it's all talk. I think the ultra cons will be surprised to see that when push comes to shove, not that many will leave.

I do not think its gonna pass, so it probably does not matter.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher

Sam,

The fact is, the United Pentecostal Church NEVER took an official stand against radio. I've heard others make this argument, and it is simply not true. There were some individuals who preached against it, but we, as a movement, never felt led of the Holy Ghost to make an official stand. When it came to television, however, an overwhelming majority of men felt prompted by the Spirit to take an official stand against that particular form of media.


Thad,

Here is one UPC preacher who WILL leave if the resolution passes. I don't care if the UPC starts 10 churches in my city. If they adopt the usage of television in any form or fashion, I'm out.

Will you then gracefully leave the UPC where you have been God's servant, or will you try to remain as the pastor and influence the church to cut any ties as well?

[ChicagoPastor]

I am voting YES! and then I'm going to vote Yes four more times, for a few friends of mine who can't make it but asked me to vote for them

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Some of these same guys knew voting for an Affirmation Statement would alienate some brethren and force their hand to leave.

Maybe I don't understand what you're saying here? Are you saying that because of the affirmation statement that a payback attitude is in order? Interesting posture to be taken as a fellowship of Brothers. So I guess looking for unity is out of the question...right?

Originally Posted by deacon blues

They didn't mind doing something knowing that men would exit the organization as result.

Understandable, but what do you really think should be done to keep peace and unity? I can understand that hard feelings may be felt by some as I can see by the above statement, but my question is how would you suggest keeping your fellow Brothers from leaving? I see that you disagreed with the affirmation statement and that it caused a problem, but since you feel that the affirmation statement caused a riff and therefore made Brothers leave, what would you now suggest to avoid another exodus?

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Why were thay willing to lose some good men for something that has only caused more division?

Granted, so how can you avoid more division? What would be the solution to make everyone united?

Originally Posted by deacon blues

In fact I believe the division we are seeing today is a result of the AS, something that has done nothing more than sow discord among us and to bring us to this point.

You have solidly presented the problem, but my question is how to implement a solution?

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

What about Pastor Posters post about $5.00 per spot? That's not a lot of money.

Is that in Romania?

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Why do you guys never address the affordability of cable tv advertising?

Affordabilty on cable? I don't really know about 5.00 a spot advertising.
Could you explain what a "spot" means? Is it 2 seconds, 2 minutes, 2 hours?
Is it at 3 AM, 6 AM?

Originally Posted by deacon blues

You always talk like folks are trying to get Super Bowl ad time!

Really? So, you decided to offer the Super Bowl advertising time as an example? Hey 5.00 a spot to 5 million, not bad to prove a point.
How about trying at least 1,200 to 1,500, I have been on radio and on three different stations and you make television sound far more affordable than AM.
I would ask you to personally research the cost of television advertising at your own local level. Not by searching the Internet but by calling the television stations. You may just get a better view of the issue.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Yes advertising on the networks IS expensive, and a vast majority could not afford it. Besides not many churches would want a national ad campaign. However advertising on local cable is very reasonable. Research it on the net and you will see that this "no one can afford it but the big churches" mantra is just plain nonsensical.

Brother I truly believe that all this may just backfire and cause way more problems than one would want.


In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com