Missouri Molestation Case

[RandyWayne]

And I pray to God that higher ups don't try to white wash this and demonize the victims.... But maybe that's going back to the Good Ole Boys Network.

[LadyChocolate]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I believe you completely when you say YOUR not defending this but this is the start of making the victim the villain for not "forgiving" the guilty or learning to deal with it, while the guilty is "forgiven" by all manner of people who don't even have the authority to do it on the part of the vic, but proceed to act all self-righteous about it. I've seen it in the Ohio case as well as other molestation cases.

I understand what you are saying... and by no means do I see this man a victom if she doesn't forgive nor would I see her as a villian if she doesn't overcome this in her life... I've been very close to many who were molested as a child. They carry around soo much inside.....soo many hurts, deep wounds.... That is also why it makes my blood boil to hear stories like this...

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by FRINGE_NUTTER

This is true but the man standing in the pulpit is God's representative on earth. A child can't see God, but the child can see the man who represents Him. It's hard for a child to make sense of what happens. It's hard for an adult to make sense of what happens in cases like the one mentioned on this thread. Only God can bring about the spiritual healing that is needed.

Definitely a no win situation....at least from a short-term perspective.

[OP_Carl]

Originally Posted by LadyChocolate

That is what i thought when i first read this.... YOu know, I have no problem helping to restore a brother (or sister) when they sin... We are commanded to do so.... BUT, to me, when you start messing with children, you are doing more than just "sinning"... please understand what I am trying to say... I can see where a man or woman might get messed up and commit adultery...you know, things like that..... but to mess with children is sooo out there.... I'm not saying there is no mercy, all have that promise each morning... But this is just not another "ooops I messed up" thing... This is a "sicko" thing...

It's an 'irrepairable damage' thing.

That girl can NEVER have her innocence back. This girl will struggle with male role models, authority, male authority, her own sexuality, relationships, trust, and guilt. Her entire family will require a miracle to ever have faith in a man of God again. The church members will have their struggles and fallings-away now as an additional repercussion. It's hard enough for a church and board to replace a pastor in 'normal' circumstances. Now the must do so while questioning everything they've been taught in the last 4 to 20 years, possibly even while questioning God Himself.

Sad, indeed.

[Newman]

Originally Posted by FRINGE_NUTTER

I wouldn't say they are over but maybe improving.

Improving dramatically over the thinking even a decade earlier.... Thank God!

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by OP_Carl

It's an 'irrepairable damage' thing.

irreparable

[H2H]

Originally Posted by OP_Carl

It's an 'irrepairable damage' thing.

That girl can NEVER have her innocence back. This girl will struggle with male role models, authority, male authority, her own sexuality, relationships, trust, and guilt. Her entire family will require a miracle to ever have faith in a man of God again. The church members will have their struggles and fallings-away now as an additional repercussion. It's hard enough for a church and board to replace a pastor in 'normal' circumstances. Now the must do so while questioning everything they've been taught in the last 4 to 20 years, possibly even while questioning God Himself.

Sad, indeed.

I HEAR THIS LOUD AND CLEAR. BUT, is it not true then - all those many sermons I have heard - that God can, will and wants to fully heal and restore those who have experienced such pain and suffering??

[OP_Carl]

Originally Posted by Margies3

I don't know if it's true or not, but I'm told that in the prison system, if a person has messed with a child, what they have to go through inside that prison makes them WISH they had a millstone around their neck and were in the bottom of the deep blue sea with it.

It's amazing the sorts of 'accidents' befall molesters once the other inmates learn their crimes. They trip over floor wax, they fall up the stairs, they fall on their own fork in the cafeteria. Fifty-seven times. Those other inmates may be criminals, but many of them are also parents.

[Newman]

Originally Posted by OP_Carl

It's an 'irrepairable damage' thing.

That girl can NEVER have her innocence back. This girl will struggle with male role models, authority, male authority, her own sexuality, relationships, trust, and guilt. Her entire family will require a miracle to ever have faith in a man of God again. The church members will have their struggles and fallings-away now as an additional repercussion. It's hard enough for a church and board to replace a pastor in 'normal' circumstances. Now the must do so while questioning everything they've been taught in the last 4 to 20 years, possibly even while questioning God Himself.

Sad, indeed.

This is true and yet I have talked to a woman who was molested by a minister as a young teenager. She absolutly claims peace and victory over this. I believe there are alot of people that could benefit from understanding how she was able to overcome (even when the good ole boys network swept it under the carpet).

The sad reality is that 1 out of 4 girls have been molested as a child and one out of 7 boys. This is something the church needs to talk about and minister to.

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Newman

The sad reality is that 1 out of 4 girls have been molested as a child and one out of 7 boys. This is something the church needs to talk about and minister to.

Wow, those are alarming figures...didn't realize it was that high!