Water Baptism.....Just What Is It For?

Originally Posted by OneAccord

Good point. Then again, how do I know anything? How do I know you are really Garfield? You don't look like Garfield. Are YOU really and truly Garfield?


Let me clarify... he answered the altar call, he said words like "God,forgive me... Lord, I'm sorry for my sins". He wept, he cried. Then at some point, he started shouting "Praise the Lord" and "Thank you Jesus". Kinda like I did when I repented and I KNOW I repented.

Thank you. You're basing your opinion on your personal experience. No Bible. So you really don't KNOW that the man repented.

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

Not sure of your answer. It the demons believe what is the differnce between you and them? Obviously you must take your faith further, like take Peter at his word.

My point is that "believe" is not really accurate in terms of what is required of us. Even the demons believe. What is required of us is not mere belief but, instead, trust. It is not enough to merely believe the gospel, we must put our trust in it. Yet, in so much of modern evangelizing and preaching today the message is nothing more than "All you have to do is believe."

Originally Posted by OneAccord

Baptism is our response of obedience for what Christ did for us at Calvary.

But scripture seems to suggest that there's more to it than that. Acts 2:38 says it's "for the remission of sins" (a better translation of the Greek would be "for the forgiveness of sins"). In Romans, baptism is used symbolically for our being buried with Christ.

Originally Posted by Warmbee

In Jesus' name?

Yes.

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Would like to see what some of you theologians think water baptism represents. ALL you other folks can answer as well.



I have always understood water baptism in the simplest terms I could find. It is a burial. Jesus after dying, was buried. We, after dying at repentance, bury the old sinful man. We are buried with Christ by faith, and are to resurrect with him to new life (Holy Ghost baptism).

Hi St,
Water baptism in Jesus name remits sins or washes your sins away. Acts 22:16:And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,and wash away thy sins,calling on the name of the Lord

Have you obeyed ? Acts2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ FOR THE REMISSION of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call

Jesus told the disciples in John 20:23 whosoever sins you remit they are remitted and whosoever sins you retain they are retained. When we lead someone to the water to be baptized their sins are being remitted in the water. John20:23: Whosoever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whosoever sins ye retain, they are retained

NOTE confess. Where do we confess our sins? The blood is applied in the water in the name of Jesus. 1 John 1:9: If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Math.3:6: And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins

Believers will be baptized in Jesus name.Acts 8:12: But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women

Acts10:43: To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. (Remisssion in Jesus name baptism Acts 2:38)

Blood was shed at death.Rom.6:: Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death (blood): that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5: For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death (blood), we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection

True believers will obey.1 Peter1:22: Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: 23: Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever

Acts 5:32: And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him

I can't remember if I've been in this thread; being a little while since I've wondered about the site. But, here's 'my' two cents:
Mark 16:16; Acts 22:16; 1 Peter 3:21.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Would like to see what some of you theologians think water baptism represents. ALL you other folks can answer as well.



I have always understood water baptism in the simplest terms I could find. It is a burial. Jesus after dying, was buried. We, after dying at repentance, bury the old sinful man. We are buried with Christ by faith, and are to resurrect with him to new life (Holy Ghost baptism).

Jesus before death was baptised by John? Baptisim was not a new thing, baptisim in Jesus Name was to set believers in Christ apart.

I'm sure this has been mentioned before, though I had forgotten it earlier; Romans 6.

Shalom Shalom

The Quakers started off as Oneness folks believing in Jesus Name Baptism untill they split in the Early 1900s which most went to the trinity camp.

Water of Baptism goes to the Temple of the Water of Laver to wash onself clean from Dirt (SIN) Jesus being the Temple built in these Last Days.A Priest had to wash before going into the Temple even that the Holy of Holies.Sin levens the WHOLE Lump or whole BODY.The Atonement of SINS is the BLOOD in which came from the Blood Atonement sacrifice.Yeshua is that Lamb slain.That body Died yes but that SOUL didnt die.


Baptizo ,dunk or sink plunge fully.Greek Language was writen as same as when a ship was lost at sea it was baptized totally submerged DUNKED in Water.Fully Emersed


Romans chapter Six although in the Greek Language was HEBREW Meaning and Understanding and the Greek WORLD didnt understand it shows us Baptism planted in the likenes of his death and was burried in the Ground FULLY for the aloted time


there is more but thats life,study

Sabellius1

Originally Posted by hammondb3klingon1

Don't Know Howard Goss. Was he being TIC when he said that or was he for real?

Where did Howard Goss say that?