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07-21-2007, 12:11 AM
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It's not easy being me.
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
They took them from his body, but nothing is said about him anointing the hanky...
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I was going to make the same remark, but you beat me to it. 
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07-21-2007, 01:00 AM
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Well you can tell most of the older ministers here in AL are passing away. When I was younger most of the churches pastored by older ministers wouldn't allow the women to join the choir or sing if they showed up with their hair down. I am only 29 so that wasn't a long time ago. Now we have this new fad................
I am truly bothered by this new teaching...............
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07-21-2007, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Sherri
When you've been away from the organization as many years as we have, you look back and see this stuff in a whole different light. To me, it sounds so "cultic" that it's scary. I have never considered the UPC a cult, and you all know that I love and respect the organization, but this is beyond freaky. If they accept this as a doctrinal position, which will happen if the leadership keeps pushing it, then they have just crossed the line into heresy.
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This is what happen when you built a whole doctrinal on untruths, it can't go anywhere but downhill~
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07-21-2007, 02:52 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by Blubayou
This movement really concerns me. My pastor mentioned an instance where hair was used in an answered prayer in the pulpit a couple of Sundays ago. ( A pastor's wife took her hair down and prayed for protection of their house during Hurricane Rita and their house was unharmed) I think this is a growing movement in our ranks.
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You know Catholics pray to Mary and claim miracles happen. They do their holy water and their house is protected. They pray to saints and do Novenas and claim something happened.
The point to crying statues and blood leaking from other idols as proof of their faith....this is what is really beginning to bother me that more and more of these stories are cropping up in our group as evidence that a womans uncut hair has power...if that is the case then so does statues of mary and holy water etc etc
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07-21-2007, 02:55 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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Originally Posted by Sherri
When you've been away from the organization as many years as we have, you look back and see this stuff in a whole different light. To me, it sounds so "cultic" that it's scary. I have never considered the UPC a cult, and you all know that I love and respect the organization, but this is beyond freaky. If they accept this as a doctrinal position, which will happen if the leadership keeps pushing it, then they have just crossed the line into heresy.
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Actually it sounds Occultic. We might as well go to the kabbalah , do numerology...light candles
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-21-2007, 02:56 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by SarahElizabeth
I knew a preacher who preached all the women were supposed to wear their hair UP to have POWER with the angels because the verse says "ON" her head - and he interpreted that to mean UP - not hanging down. Also, I have heard it taught that it was the sign of being a sinner to wear one's hair down, as the woman with the alabaster bottle had her hair down and she was a sinner.
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The sad thing is, Paul didn't even say "power with the angels"...its' amazing how false doctrine is started and never even checked and taken for granted.
BTW if her hair is really a covering or veil, it should be worn down always, especially at church
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-21-2007, 02:58 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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Originally Posted by jwharv
Well you can tell most of the older ministers here in AL are passing away. When I was younger most of the churches pastored by older ministers wouldn't allow the women to join the choir or sing if they showed up with their hair down. I am only 29 so that wasn't a long time ago. Now we have this new fad................
I am truly bothered by this new teaching...............
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That just doesn't make any sense for a group that preaches she should have LONG uncut hair, that it is her glory, that it is a covering and then hide it all on top of the head.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-21-2007, 03:00 AM
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Resident Insomniac
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Alabama
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
That just doesn't make any sense for a group that preaches she should have LONG uncut hair, that it is her glory, that it is a covering and then hide it all on top of the head.
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It was just another standard of most of the local churches where I grew up..
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07-21-2007, 05:42 AM
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Maybe if they built their hair in the shape of a chimney with a big hole in the middle it would channel the power better?
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07-21-2007, 06:49 AM
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Not riding the train
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheltiedad
Maybe if they built their hair in the shape of a chimney with a big hole in the middle it would channel the power better?
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