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07-15-2007, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Is it ? I might be wrong but I don't recall seeing it.
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It's not there. The ISBE says
shḗ-kī´na (שׁכינה, shekhīnah, “that which dwells,” from the verb שׁכן, shākhēn, or שׁכן, shākhan, “to dwell,” “reside”): This word is not found in the Bible, but there are allusions to it in Isa_60:2; Mat_17:5; Luk_2:9; Rom_9:4. It is first found in the Targums. See GLORY.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-15-2007, 03:10 PM
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Jesus' Name Pentecostal
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Jesus is my Savior and it lives in my heart.
God is my Father and it takes care of me.
The Holy Spirit lives in me and it guides me.
For God so loved the world that it gave its only begotten son, that whosoever believes in it shall not perish but have everlasting life.
God is Father, God is Son, and God is Holy Ghost.
Some times this triune God is referred to as we and us and some times this triune God is referred to as He or Him.
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Sam also known as Jim Ellis
Apostolic in doctrine
Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship
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07-15-2007, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne
Like I said, we assign Him a gender because it's all we understand. But think about it....what would be the purpose of God and the angels being male? What is our purpose for having gender?
We don't understand genderless beings and our language doesn't allow that understanding, thus the reason why God refers to Himself as male to us, and why Jesus was born a male instead of being born genderless.
That, coupled with the fact that our history holds males in high esteem (thus the reason why Jesus wasn't female instead) is the reason why God is male and the only purpose for being such. But God is a spirit, and spirits don't have gender. There is no need for it.
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It's called Anthropomorphism.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-15-2007, 03:12 PM
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Resident PeaceMaker
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Is the Holy Ghost a WHAT or a WHO or both? I think we need to understand that the Spirit is the Spirit OF Christ, not someone other than Christ nor something other than Christ.
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I agree.
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There they can find plenty of fault.
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07-15-2007, 03:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam
Jesus is my Savior and it lives in my heart.
God is my Father and it takes care of me.
The Holy Spirit lives in me and it guides me.
For God so loved the world that it gave its only begotten son, that whosoever believes in it shall not perish but have everlasting life.
God is Father, God is Son, and God is Holy Ghost.
Some times this triune God is referred to as we and us and some times this triune God is referred to as He or Him.
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But three Gods don't live inside of you ,just one.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
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07-15-2007, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Strange
It always amuses me to hear how people express themselves in regard to "spirit" as though spirit is a indefinite glob of air or cloud or something strangely etherial.
First let me ask you.
Don't you believe that Jesus is the One True Lord God, Jehovah Almighty?
Don't you believe that He is a man?
Do you not believe that He is the last Adam?
Are we not speaking of gender? Don't you believe that Jesus in the flesh was nothing unlike you and I in regards to gender?
I am sure that you said "yes" to all of the above.
Now for the last question, do you not believe that the Lord (Jesus Christ) is that Spirit?
2Cr 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord [is], there [is] liberty.
Yes sir. When you see Jesus, you will see God, who is Lord above all. You will also see that He is a man. Yes, He is THE Spirit...the Holy Spirit having no human limitations, indwelling all believers, present in His church, filling all space and time, having all power.
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Spirit, but definition, is incoporeal. Spirit, in greek, refers to air or wind. Spirits are not usually seen. They are unseen.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-15-2007, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
But three Gods don't live inside of you ,just one.
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I did not know that this Sam character is a trinitarian.
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07-15-2007, 03:14 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Praxeas
Did you read what I just said? Spirit is God's essence of Being. He does not have physical arms. So when HE does things He does things BY His Spirit. Again, Spirit is called the Spirit OF the Father. Spirit is WHAT God is.
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Yes, I read what you said. That's why I responded with my question. Jesus doesn't have arms now either? Tsk, tsk. What am I gonna do with you, Prax? Who do you think you are going to see when you get to Heaven, Bro? Won't it be the same Jesus that walked this Earth, arms and all?
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07-15-2007, 03:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Strange
True...
and oft times when we DO know the gender.
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Yes then we might say "What's his name" or "What's her name"
__________________
Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-15-2007, 03:15 PM
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Resident PeaceMaker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Praxeas
It's not there. The ISBE says
shḗ-kī´na (שׁכינה, shekhīnah, “that which dwells,” from the verb שׁכן, shākhēn, or שׁכן, shākhan, “to dwell,” “reside”): This word is not found in the Bible, but there are allusions to it in Isa_60:2; Mat_17:5; Luk_2:9; Rom_9:4. It is first found in the Targums. See GLORY. |
Does that differ from the Textus Receptus ?I'm not the scholar you are.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
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