Christmas is not pagan

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by seguidordejesus

you say that like it's a bad thing.

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[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Amanah

God sanctified and commanded the Sabbath in Genesis and Exodus.

Constantine and the Catholic Church (Mystery Babylon) legislated Sunday worship.

The early church met on the first day of the week, but the Apostles never instituted that as a requirement. But just because Constantine made it a requirement does not mean it should be forbidden now. And the Roman Catholic Church did not even exist in the day of Constantine.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Amanah

God sanctified and commanded the Sabbath in Genesis and Exodus.

Constantine and the Catholic Church (Mystery Babylon) legislated Sunday worship.

God never commanded Sabbath keeping prior to the Law. Thus, it is not binding post-Law.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Originalist

The early church met on the first day of the week, but the Apostles never instituted that as a requirement. But just because Constantine made it a requirement does not mean it should be forbidden now. And the Roman Catholic Church did not even exist in the day of Constantine.

The early church met every day (Acts 2:46) nowhere does it say the Sabbath was abolished.

Paul Went to the Synagogue every Sabbath:
Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and tried to persuade Jews and Greeks.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Originalist

God never commanded Sabbath keeping prior to the Law. Thus, it is not binding post-Law.

The Sabbath was commanded in Exodus 16 prior to the Law in Exodus 20.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Amanah

The Sabbath was commanded in Exodus 16 prior to the Law in Exodus 20.

And to who was this command given? It was simply a part of the Law given a bit earlier than the rest. There is no "instituting" of it among men by God found anywhere prior to those God gave the Law if it was meant to be that one tidbit of the Mosaic Law binding upon New Covenant Gentil believers, it would have been mentioned in Acts 15.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Amanah

The early church met every day (Acts 2:46) nowhere does it say the Sabbath was abolished.

Paul Went to the Synagogue every Sabbath:
Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and tried to persuade Jews and Greeks.

You dodged my point. Sunday is just as good as any other day for the church to meet, regardless of what Constantine did. nd it is not a question of the Sabbath being "abolished." Rather, it was never required for Gentiles to keep it in the first place.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Originalist

And to who was this command given? It was simply a part of the Law given a bit earlier than the rest. There is no "instituting" of it among men by God found anywhere prior to those God gave the Law if it was meant to be that one tidbit of the Mosaic Law binding upon New Covenant Gentil believers, it would have been mentioned in Acts 15.

Since all the commandments were given to Israel. By your reasoning none of the 10 commandments can be required of gentiles.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Originalist

You dodged my point. Sunday is just as good as any other day for the church to meet, regardless of what Constantine did. nd it is not a question of the Sabbath being "abolished." Rather, it was never required for Gentiles to keep it in the first place.

Then none of the 10 commandments are required to be kept by new covenant believers. And the bible is mistaken about the law being written on our hearts.

[Amanah]

We are grafted into Israel, there is one plan of salvation for all people
Romans 11:11-24

God's plan was for Israel to be a light to the gentiles
Genesis 18:17-19
Isaiah 42, Isaiah 49

Israel fell into pagan Babylonian worship and God divorced her
Jeremiah 3
Ezekiel 23, Hosea 11

Jesus came as the Davidic King to restore Israel
Matthew 11, Matthew 12
To bless the nations through the seed of Abraham
Genesis 12
To preach the gospel of the coming Kingdom
Matthew 28:18-20

The plan of redemption is for Jews and Gentiles together, one covenant
Romans 11:30-36, Zechariah 8

The old covenant was the law Written on tablets of stone

Exodus 20

The new covenant is the law written on ours hearts by the Spirit

Jeremiah 31:32-34
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Hebrews 8:10
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

The first Exodus:
Blood on the door post
Through the waters of the red Sea
Led by a cloud and pillar of fire
Law given at Sinai

The second Exodus:
Repentance/blood of calvary
Water baptism
Infilling of the Holy Ghost
The law written on the fleshly tablets of our hearts