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02-18-2018, 02:28 AM
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Re: Anthony Mangun on TBN 2/15/18
Personally, I have trouble praying much over 30 minutes. The few times I have prayed through the Tabernacle plan, I lost all sense of time and became lost in prayer. It was incredible.
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02-18-2018, 02:28 AM
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Re: Anthony Mangun on TBN 2/15/18
Prayer wheel?
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02-18-2018, 02:35 AM
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Re: Anthony Mangun on TBN 2/15/18
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Prayer wheel?
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Basically same concept, except in a wheel shape. Thanksgiving, repentance, prayer for leaders, intercession, etc.
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02-18-2018, 03:04 AM
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Re: Anthony Mangun on TBN 2/15/18
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Originally Posted by Esaias
What's interesting is the Tabernacle Prayer outline seems to have originated among the charismatics in the 70s?
Does anyone have information about who first came up with this idea?
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I read this booklet I think at least 10 years ago. Maybe even 12. Not sure when it was published, though.
https://pentecostalpublishing.com/p-...of-prayer.aspx
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The Tabernacle complex built by Moses serves today as a road map into the Presence of God, not only when a person initially comes to God, but also in a believer’s daily devotions. The Tabernacle itself represents the place of the Divine Presence. In order to get into that place where spiritual intimacy and powerful prayer are possible, we must begin at the gate, which represents praise. Daily devotions must begin with praise!
From the gate we go to the altar where we offer ourselves to God as a living sacrifice. This is where we say, “Not my will, but thy will be done.” From the altar we go to the laver, which is the place of cleansing. Here we search our hearts and confess our sins, washing ourselves in the water of the Word. At this point we are ready to receive the anointing.
Before the priests entered the Tabernacle for ministry, they stood before the door while as much as five quarts of anointing oil were poured over them. Whenever we take the time to praise God with our whole heart, to offer ourselves to Him as servants of His will, and to cleanse ourselves of all unrighteousness, we should then expect a bountiful anointing to come. Only then we will be able to pray with power and efficacy in the Presence of the Supreme God, Jesus Christ.
This guide will provide you with spiritual words as you enter into His holy Presence. Don’t just read the words under each heading, but pray the words. After doing this for awhile, the words will enter into your spirit and you will no longer need the guide. This booklet comes with a CD where the author explains how to use the guide. We give a copy of the CD and booklet to every new believer. We have them to be the most useful tools we have ever found for helping saints develop a powerful and consistent prayer life.
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02-18-2018, 05:50 AM
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Re: Anthony Mangun on TBN 2/15/18
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Originally Posted by votivesoul
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The UPC PDF I linked to was published in the 90s I think?
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02-18-2018, 07:11 AM
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Re: Anthony Mangun on TBN 2/15/18
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Originally Posted by n david
Whether you pray using the Tabernacle plan, or a prayer wheel or stations of prayer, what matters isn't how you do it, but that you pray and have communion with God. Kneel, sit, stand or lie prostrate - I'm not going to demand scripture and verse to prove it's biblical.
Just pray.
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Not problem with having something as a guide, but to claim it's biblical is stretching it.
My main concern is the mindset it can create that we are outside his presence and we have to go through these steps to get into the holy place. I could be over thinking.
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The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
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02-18-2018, 07:14 AM
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Re: Anthony Mangun on TBN 2/15/18
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Originally Posted by Barb
Frankly, I don't care where it came from if it produces positive results.
Sunday School was invented by Baptists, if I'm not mistaken. Bus ministry is not in the NT or making and selling peanut brittle, yet many have implemented these things in their congregations.
Churches hand out prayer cloths like candy, and claim it is scriptural, but the fact is, it happened once that the record shows. And Paul didn't hand them out...folks took them from his body.
I don't condemn folks who practice praying over a piece of cloth. If it's been a blessing to someone, I applaud it.
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Praying the rosary?
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02-18-2018, 07:15 AM
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Re: Anthony Mangun on TBN 2/15/18
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How do you pray? Is everything you do in prayer written in scripture? Do you kneel? Do you lay down? Do you sit cross-legged and hum a mantra? Is your prayer by the Bible? Why are we so quick to nitpick everything? Oh my goodness, this church walks around a room and pauses in front of different poster boards. THAT'S NOT BIBLICAL! Gimme a break.
Is it biblical to praise and offering thanksgiving?
Pray for repentance? Die to self?
Pray for others?
Is there scripture for intercessory prayer.
That's what it is. It's simply using each article of the tabernacle as an allegory in prayer.
If you don't like it, fine, that's you. But don't try to claim it's some false doctrine or not scriptural.
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You didn't answer the question.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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02-18-2018, 07:18 AM
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Re: Anthony Mangun on TBN 2/15/18
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Originally Posted by n david
Personally, I have trouble praying much over 30 minutes. The few times I have prayed through the Tabernacle plan, I lost all sense of time and became lost in prayer. It was incredible.
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All night prayer meetings are needful. I for one always have so much to pray for as far as myself and brothers and sisters. I guess I need a lot of prayer
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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02-18-2018, 07:29 AM
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Re: Anthony Mangun on TBN 2/15/18
EB, since we are positioned on the throne with Christ(holy place) wouldn't it be better to have a prayer guide praying from the place vs being outside having to steps get into his presence (holy place)
Am I over thinking?
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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