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Old 06-14-2017, 03:34 PM
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What about obama? Why not blame him? Dude had 8 years and only made it worse with obamacare.
That's an opinion. It is also subject to what state one lives in. Those states led by the GOP who refused to participate in the Medicaid expansion and the ACA market exchanges, saw EXTREME rise in cost. Basically, the Republicans stuck it to these people and blamed Obama. Here in Ohio, our leadership (Republican) bought into the program and it has been a success.

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You're complaining about Trump who has been in office all of 4 1/2 months and who has had to deal with the fake collusion scandal perpetrated by Democrats and the media.
So, you believe Trump will eventually come out with a plan rivalling Roosevelt's New Deal to prevent the GOP Congress from eviscerating current coverage and save the day? I doubt it. Trump is no Roosevelt.

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It's called being a partisan hack. You can't blame Trump, but you do because he's the eevvvvviiiiiiillllllllllll Republican. Strike two, he's rich. Strike three, no skin in the game.
Most Democrats are rather rich too. And judging by Trump's history of deception, womanizing, groping, confessing to wanting to "f" a woman like a dog, lies, and questionable business dealing... I'd say that Trump definitely isn't a righteous man. Evil? Eh... "Corrupt"... definitely.
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Old 06-14-2017, 03:35 PM
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Well there ya go. No one is guaranteed life, why do we need an Amendment to protect our right to defend ourselves?

That is stupid logic and you know it.
What you call "stupid logic" is Bible. You have no guarantee your mother would have lived even with insurance. So stop your blame game.

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Nope.
Yes, I have. This isn't the first time you've posted the story of your mother. It's been posted several times.

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Why offer condolences, according to you she's only a political prop, bargaining chip, fodder, someone to USE.
Don't turn it on me. I'm not the one using her. You are.

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I mean, just be honest. That's what you think of those who have died and caused so many to consider the need for universal health insurance. I mean, own it. Be proud of it. It's what makes you a conservative. Don't try to get all mushy and compassionate now. Besides, you'll only sound compassionate... but cackle with glee as vast numbers of Americas lose the coverage they need under this Trumpcare-tragedy.
And this is where I'm done posting with you.

I was absolutely serious earlier: Get help. You have a ton of unresolved anger, and based on your posts, it's not good. Not good at all. Talk to your pastor or elder. Pray. Go see a psychiatrist. Anything.
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Old 06-14-2017, 03:37 PM
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Stuck on what? The fact that your concern was only aimed at right-wing conservative Christians? Or the fact that the shooter was a Bernie supporter?
I don't care who he supported. It was a deplorable act.

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I'm just putting them together. You may not like how it looks put together, but it is what you posted.
You are putting together things you clearly didn't understand.

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I'm not laughing.
Well, say a prayer for me. I'll be okay. My killing days are over.
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Old 06-14-2017, 03:41 PM
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the GOP is trying to fix the ACA which is imploding. The Dems knew it would implode on the GOP watch and they didn't care. The point was an agenda to move us towards more Govt control.
I wouldn't put it past the Democrats to do that. I just don't think they are that brilliant.

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The level of violent rhetoric we're seeing is because of the MSM's need to churn out fake news for ratings.
There could be some truth to that. Maybe we shouldn't have corporatized the media.

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Then you have mentally ill people who take it to heart and turn to actual violence.
So very true. A clear and present danger. And it will be worse after this passes and vast numbers of Americans begin to actually suffer and die as a result of the GOP's agenda.
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Old 06-14-2017, 03:42 PM
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Here in Ohio, our leadership (Republican) bought into the program and it has been a success.
Success?

Anthem is pulling all of its plans out of Ohio. Over 10,000 will be without insurance beginning in 2018.

But, sure, Ohio has been a success.
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Old 06-14-2017, 03:45 PM
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Dude wasn't mentally ill. He simply followed the instruction of the media and liberals. His FB page was regurgitated rhetoric from the media and liberals.
The act itself clearly reveals that the guy was unhinged.

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Tim Kaine called for people to fight in the street.
Through protest.

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Loretta Lynch called for more blood and death in the streets.
Stupid hyper emotional rhetoric.

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Fmr Rep Garcia called the GOP "the Taliban."
He's right.

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obama told his supporters to bring a gun to the knife fight.
It was a figure of speech. It means, come prepared to win.

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Meanwhile, the media is writing fake news articles, claiming there was collusion between Trump, his campaign and Russia. The shooter read this and even signed a petition to "remove Trump" based on that lie.
Maybe we shouldn't of corporatized the media.

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The guy became indoctrinated by the media and liberal lies.
I think the guy came unhinged.

I wonder what the back story is.
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Old 06-14-2017, 03:52 PM
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What you call "stupid logic" is Bible. You have no guarantee your mother would have lived even with insurance. So stop your blame game.
Well, I guess the Bible's right. We really don't need a right to defend ourselves, we gonna die when we're gonna die anyway.

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Yes, I have. This isn't the first time you've posted the story of your mother. It's been posted several times.
Whatever, she's just a prop, remember?

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Don't turn it on me. I'm not the one using her. You are.
Yes, you would love for people like me to shut up and keep our loved one's story quiet, wouldn't you? I mean, after enough people hear so many of these stories... and experience similar circumstances themselves... they might see through the conservative smoke screen.

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And this is where I'm done posting with you.
But it's true. You won't be happy that so many will love coverage under Trumpcare? I thought you supported Trumpcare. If I supported it, I'd cackle with glee, if not at least over the political victory. Own it. You're the one supporting it.

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I was absolutely serious earlier: Get help. You have a ton of unresolved anger, and based on your posts, it's not good. Not good at all. Talk to your pastor or elder. Pray. Go see a psychiatrist. Anything.
You're good. You diagnosed me over the internet. LOL

The emotions I feel about losing my mother, watching her needlessly die when perhaps she could have been helped, that emotion fuels my desire to support H.R. 676.
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Old 06-14-2017, 03:54 PM
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Success?

Anthem is pulling all of its plans out of Ohio. Over 10,000 will be without insurance beginning in 2018.

But, sure, Ohio has been a success.
It has been.
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Old 06-14-2017, 04:16 PM
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So very true. A clear and present danger. And it will be worse after this passes and vast numbers of Americans begin to actually suffer and die as a result of the GOP's agenda.
What is worrisome is that you are in favor of violence because you are being manipulated by the heightened rhetoric.
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Success?

Anthem is pulling all of its plans out of Ohio. Over 10,000 will be without insurance beginning in 2018.

But, sure, Ohio has been a success.
Obunglercare has been and is doing EXACTLY what it was designed to do. so yes, it has been a smashing success.

Oh, you thought it was "supposed" to help people?

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Like the Bolshevik 5 Year Plan was supposed to "help" people? Everyone believes communism fails. It doesn't, it does just what it was designed to do: destroy civilisation.

The sooner you realise these people aren't bungling idiots but murdering thieves, the sooner you will realise what exactly we've been up against all these decades.
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