Republican leaders voting Hillary?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Jito463

You know, I have to ask. How in the world did humanity EVER survive, before there was health insurance? If it's such a necessity, how did humanity last for thousands of years without it?

You know, I was wondering the same thing about cars, plumbing, currency, and air conditioning.

You are too stuck on this whole insurance garbage. What we need, is to get the government out of our health care entirely.

Well, in today's world health insurance is essential to raise healthy kids and to have healthy adults.

But, do you really want to know why I'm "stuck on this whole insurance garbage"? My mom. That's why. Mom worked hard after I graduated from high school. She never made enough to buy into her employer's health insurance plan. She barely had enough to pay the bills as it was, so she opted out. Because she didn't have health insurance, she couldn't pay the out of pocket costs of going to see the doctor. Any medical expenses billed to her were slow pay. Extremely slow pay. As a result, she didn't have a family doctor. Nor did she have regular check-ups or physicals. She had several episodes that indicated that there might be a problem, but due to costs, she refused to be seen. At 54 she died of a massive heart attack. I feel in the depths of my soul that if she had health insurance and had a regular doctor, she could have had her regular physicals and they might have caught the problem early. Prior to the ACA, an average of 45,000 Americans were dying every year of treatable conditions due to lack of insurance coverage for the treatments and procedures they needed. That's one American dying every 45 minutes from a treatable condition. And the only reason why they are dying is.... they have no coverage or insufficient coverage for the treatments they needed.

Thank God for SCHIP, which was signed into law under President Bill Clinton. SCHIP has successfully covered over 8 million American children who would have no coverage otherwise. My step-daughter is one of those kids who greatly benefited from this when her mother wasn't working. SCHIP was sponsored by Senator Teddy Kennedy and Senator Orin Hatch. SCHIP was originally a part of Hillary Care. After Hillary Care failed to gain bipartisan support, President Clinton cut it up and proposed smaller measures for which he felt he could get bipartisan support and pass. SCHIP was one such program.

So, if you're grateful that kids of poor parents have health insurance.... thank President Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Teddy Kennedy, and Orin Hatch.

As Reagan so infamously and eloquently put it, "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government, and I'm here to help".

Tell it to police & fire the next time you have an emergency. lol

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Hillary has been active in politics for over 30 years. There's plenty of good and bad to dig up on her. But what about Trump?

If Trump is better than Hillary I'd like to ask:

- What public office has he held?
- What has he done for the American people?

Clean house get fresh blood. No one with a lick of sense should even consider voting fot hillary.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Aquila

You know, I was wondering the same thing about cars, plumbing, currency, and air conditioning.



Well, in today's world health insurance is essential to raise healthy kids and to have healthy adults.

But, do you really want to know why I'm "stuck on this whole insurance garbage"? My mom. That's why. Mom worked hard after I graduated from high school. She never made enough to buy into her employer's health insurance plan. She barely had enough to pay the bills as it was, so she opted out. Because she didn't have health insurance, she couldn't pay the out of pocket costs of going to see the doctor. Any medical expenses billed to her were slow pay. Extremely slow pay. As a result, she didn't have a family doctor. Nor did she have regular check-ups or physicals. She had several episodes that indicated that there might be a problem, but due to costs, she refused to be seen. At 54 she died of a massive heart attack. I feel in the depths of my soul that if she had health insurance and had a regular doctor, she could have had her regular physicals and they might have caught the problem early. Prior to the ACA, an average of 45,000 Americans were dying every year of treatable conditions due to lack of insurance coverage for the treatments and procedures they needed. That's one American dying every 45 minutes from a treatable condition. And the only reason why they are dying is.... they have no coverage or insufficient coverage for the treatments they needed.

Thank God for SCHIP, which was signed into law under President Bill Clinton. SCHIP has successfully covered over 8 million American children who would have no coverage otherwise. My step-daughter is one of those kids who greatly benefited from this when her mother wasn't working. SCHIP was sponsored by Senator Teddy Kennedy and Senator Orin Hatch. SCHIP was originally a part of Hillary Care. After Hillary Care failed to gain bipartisan support, President Clinton cut it up and proposed smaller measures for which he felt he could get bipartisan support and pass. SCHIP was one such program.

So, if you're grateful that kids of poor parents have health insurance.... thank President Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Teddy Kennedy, and Orin Hatch.



Tell it to police & fire the next time you have an emergency. lol

You seem to have problems with remembering things, correctly.
Here is a link to SCHIP in wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_...urance_Program
here are some snippets I found interesting:
"On 25 June 1997, H.R. 2015 passed House Vote Roll #241 mainly among partisan lines, 270 ayes and 162 nays, with most Democrats in the House of Representatives in opposition"

Did you read that "most Democrats"?
This means without those evil Republicans the bill would not have passed the House.

As a matter of fact here is the link to the actual votes
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/105-1997/h241
And it is a good thing the Republicans were in charge of the House at the time or it would not have passed.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Esther

Clean house get fresh blood. No one with a lick of sense should even consider voting fot hillary.

I'm not going to type much here. Almost everything I have to say in response is in the following post.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...0&postcount=33

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

You seem to have problems with remembering things, correctly.
Here is a link to SCHIP in wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_...urance_Program
here are some snippets I found interesting:
"On 25 June 1997, H.R. 2015 passed House Vote Roll #241 mainly among partisan lines, 270 ayes and 162 nays, with most Democrats in the House of Representatives in opposition"

Did you read that "most Democrats"?
This means without those evil Republicans the bill would not have passed the House.

As a matter of fact here is the link to the actual votes
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/105-1997/h241
And it is a good thing the Republicans were in charge of the House at the time or it would not have passed.

Clinton was known for working with Congressional Republicans. Remember NAFTA? NAFTA was first proposed by President George H.W. Bush and Mexican President Carlos Salinas de Gortari. Congressional Republicans wanted it passed and deals were made and Clinton final signed it into law. So, yes, I'm sure deals were made and the Republicans got on board. Clinton always tried to work with Congressional Republicans.

But the point was, SCHIP provision was in Hillarycare originally. It didn't become law until President Clinton cut the plan into smaller proposals to get elements passed in Congress.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Esther

Clean house get fresh blood. No one with a lick of sense should even consider voting fot hillary.

So we give the most powerful office in the world to a snake oil salesman with absolutely no political experience. Sounds like a winning plan to me!

Republicans, y'all kill me.

C'mon, even President Obama had more experience when running for President.

[Aquila]

I was reflecting the other day. If Newt Gingrich were running, I'd most likely vote for him over Hillary. But Newt is really the only Republican I haven't lost all respect for right now.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

C'mon, even President Obama had more experience when running for President.

No, he didn't. Not executive experience.

obama was a community volunteer. He never held a management or executive position in any company. He largely missed votes during his term in the Illinois Senate and again during his one term as US Senator.

As much as I don't like him, the GOP Nominee has far more executive experience. Far more experience in foreign negotiations. Far more experience in labor, contracts and politics.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I was reflecting the other day. If Newt Gingrich were running, I'd most likely vote for him over Hillary. But Newt is really the only Republican I haven't lost all respect for right now.

I knew there was a reason I didn't like Newt much. Besides his constant waffling.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

I knew there was a reason I didn't like Newt much. Besides his constant waffling.

You know if Newt was the candidate, you'd be all up in how cool he is. lol