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[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

all I have read give repentance the same definition I use? For example: Thayer, Vines, Wuest, Vincent, Zophidates, Bauer.

i am sure these guys were doing their best, as passed down to them; immersed in the RCC as they must have been. It is the same tactic that satan uses in any human organization; it is his "in;" "let me set the parameters, the premise, and you guys can then flop around in the fire."

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Well my sources publish because they can validate their findings. These are the foremost Greek authorities we know? So why would I accept an opinion that cannot be proven. Webster agrees with these lexicographers. You have a right to your own opinion you don't have a right to your own facts!

yes, the standard reply. Judge by the fruit, i say. One is perfectly free to revert to...whatever produces fruit for them. Amen.

Webster was a Mason, i believe?
so the point might be "beware of where you get your "facts."

[ApostolicKitty]

Originally Posted by shazeep

my point is that you accept the translation "repentance" because that is the word you grew up with. If they are dissimilar, then find a dissimilar word, imo--Jesus, John and Paul, et al, did not use the word "repentance;" they spoke Aramaic. And carry the mind-changing through to the rest of the verse, if you dare. I have not been struck by lightning yet.

I didn't grow up with the word repentence.

Repentence
Strong's Number: 3341
Original Word: metavnoia from (3340)
Definition: a change of mind, as it appears to one who repents, of a purpose he has formed or of something he has done

Originally Posted by shazeep

i have examples, from this forum of repentance turned into penance, by God-fearing Pents who are doing their best. It is a slur, wadr. It twists the Scripture, causing at least a reminiscence of RCC. Toss it. There are at least five better ways to put that. Change your mind

Never heard of any apostolic who thinks repentence and penance are the same, but it would not surprise me.

[ApostolicKitty]

Originally Posted by shazeep

"be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins"

off the top of my head, what's wrong with
"immerse yourself in the One who bore the Cross for you" or something--anything, seeing as how so many "get baptized" and then continue sinning after flopping around for a while and giving up. And still, lightning has not struck me.

Is your post about the Bible being written improperly? Or is it about people who choose to continue in sin after they obey the command to be baptized in Jesus name?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by shazeep

yes, the standard reply. Judge by the fruit, i say. One is perfectly free to revert to...whatever produces fruit for them. Amen.

Webster was a Mason, i believe?
so the point might be "beware of where you get your "facts."

So up means down if I use Webster?

[ApostolicKitty]

Originally Posted by shazeep

i can testify that you will receive the Holy Spirit if you work at this; and even end up speaking in tongues, lol. I get asked all the time what the heck i am talking about, when i am using plain English. Not meaning to discount your glossololia; if that is producing fruit for you, i say amen.

I never worked at speaking in tongues. Didn't know anything about it really when I received the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by ApostolicKitty

I never worked at speaking in tongues. Didn't know anything about it really when I received the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues.

Amen. As the Spirit gives the utterance so the Good Book does declare.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by ApostolicKitty

Is your post about the Bible being written improperly?

hmm. ya, i dunno where most of that even comes from, sorry!

um, Scripture was written in a language, that we do not speak; we accept the translations of other men as Gospel, when they are only one reflection of it, arrived at by committee--and we have like, what, fifty of them. Commitees led by Masons? Is that really whose interp is best leaned upon? We claim to be Protestants, and celebrate Easter? ok.

Write your very own Bible, with the Holy Spirit as your guide, imo. Question every verse given to you by translation via some committee. We have the web, and lexicons available at the click of a mouse now. Seek and you will find, is possibly a point here.

Originally Posted by ApostolicKitty

...Or is it about people who choose to continue in sin after they obey the command to be baptized in Jesus name?

hmm, i prefer "continue in ignorance," as i doubt that they understood the command, improperly passed down to them. It has become, obviously, a ritual to most. Empty. As evidence, i present the many who will cry "Lord, Lord." these were all "baptized."

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

So up means down if I use Webster?

well, that is not for me to say. Do you need Webster to differentiate the two? Why rely on a Mason, when you have the Holy Spirit?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by ApostolicKitty

I never worked at speaking in tongues. Didn't know anything about it really when I received the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues.

if glossololia has produced fruit for you, then i say "amen." I have witnessed other evidence of "speaking in tongues," that produces fruit for me.