Are The Democrats Wanton Baby-Killers?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by n david

Ha! Not surprised. Can't bite the hand that feeds you!

The hand that feeds me is not a Democrat.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

The hand that feeds me is not a Democrat.

Right. That's why you're so quick to d a m n and condemn Republicans over any little thing, but now refuse and go back on your word to call out the democrats for their murderous platform for abortion.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by n david

Right. That's why you're so quick to d a m n and condemn Republicans over any little thing, but now refuse and go back on your word to call out the democrats for their murderous platform for abortion.

[n david]

Sad that one can be so willfully ignorant about the Democrat's pro-abortion platform. It's cowardice to keep silent about it.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

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God is pro-life and pro-choice. He wants us all to have life, but He has given us all a measure of freedom to choose the kind of life we will have, in this life and the life to come.

That is ridiculous, and absolutely wrong. God is not pro choice. Those who murder the unborn will stand in judgment one day.

[Aquila]

The question was...

Are The Democrats Wanton Baby-Killers?

The answer is no for two reasons.

First: Not all Democrats are Pro-Choice. Being a Democrat doesn't mean that you agree to everything in the platform. Some Pro-Life Democrats have been a burr in the saddle for Pro-Choice Democrats. One of the most proactive Pro-Life groups in the U.S. is the DFLA (Democrats for Life of America).

Second: While the prevailing opinion among Democrats is Pro-Choice in it's politics, Democrats do not FORCE anyone to have an abortion. If every woman in America decided not to procure abortions, abortion would not be taking place. The wanton "baby-killers" are those women who procure abortion after abortion as though it is some easy birth control fix.

Democrats simply believe that women should have a choice with regards to the issue for various reasons. As do most Libertarians. However, there are even Pro-Life Libertarians.

Surprisingly most Democrats are not against measures that stand to reduce the abortion rate. What many don't know is that most social initiatives aimed at reducing the abortion rate are Democratic initiatives. Pro-Life Republicans have primarily focused on merely banning abortion.

[Aquila]

When you give people a choice in any matter... they alone are responsible for their choices. The issue with abortion is that it involves terminating human life. The moral imperative of establishing the authority to do so comes to bear. Now, many believe that the Government should step in and prevent abortion and even prosecute women who procure them. Others believe that the Government didn't manage this well in the past, nor is Government capable of properly deciding which circumstances might warrant abortion. They also are spooked with the idea that in this perspective, Government can force a woman to do something like give birth against her will. They believe this is a violation of personal sovereignty. Therefore the ultimate authority over a woman's body and the fruit of her womb should rest with her and her alone.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

That is ridiculous, and absolutely wrong. God is not pro choice. Those who murder the unborn will stand in judgment one day.

Hmmm... it is interesting that God's Law required death for adulteresses caught in the act or testified against (with two witnesses). No provision in the Law of Moses stands to present a waiting period to determine pregnancy. No doubt many executed adulteresses were pregnant.

In addition we have the trial by ordeal in Numbers 5. If a man suspected that his wife was being unfaithful to him he took her before the priest for a ritual. If she had been unfaithful she was cursed with a miscarrying womb and barrenness from that day forward. The curse essentially would have destroyed anything growing within the womb and rendered her barren if she had been unfaithful.

So, an argument can be made that God is pro-choice in that He gave the husband authority over his wife and her womb. Any unborn child conceived in sin was not entitled to live.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Hmmm... it is interesting that God's Law required death for adulteresses caught in the act or testified against (with two witnesses). No provision in the Law of Moses stands to present a waiting period to determine pregnancy. No doubt many executed adulteresses were pregnant.

In addition we have the trial by ordeal in Numbers 5. If a man suspected that his wife was being unfaithful to him he took her before the priest for a ritual. If she had been unfaithful she was cursed with a miscarrying womb and barrenness from that day forward. The curse essentially would have destroyed anything growing within the womb and rendered her barren if she had been unfaithful.

So, an argument can be made that God is pro-choice in that He gave the husband authority over his wife and her womb. Any unborn child conceived in sin was not entitled to live.

That's not the same as today's abortion. You should know better.

[Jermyn Davidson]

God gave us free will.
In that context, God is indeed pro-choice.

If you had read my entire post, you would have been able to understand why a blanket condemnation of Democrats is not in order.

There are willing (or at least coerced) participants.

You didn't bother reading what I wrote, you didn't bother thinking about the implications of what I brought up in that post. You didn't bother clearly stating, "Yes, women who get abortions are guilty of Pre-Meditated First Degree Murder" when I asked earlier so, take your silly insinuations and shove them up your toe nails.