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Old 03-19-2014, 11:08 PM
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Re: I need help!!!

My question is, why are you two still arguing about it? What happened, happened. Although I hate what happened, it still happened, but ima try and make the best of things, and let God lead me through this mess.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:20 PM
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I didn't realize he was referring to abuse. There are lots of reasons a teenager can be unhappy at home which don't involve any abuse on the part of the parents/caretakers.

Are you going to attack my character now, too? First you attack JD for doing what he felt was right and ethical and calling him creepy and "stalkerish" and now you're going to get on my back for not doing what JD did? What is your problem? If you don't want to report things that teenagers tell you, and you want to risk them being abused further because you don't want to make the adults mad, that is your choice. Be my guest and if you ever get into trouble for it, or WORSE, if a child/teenager is ever harmed because you failed to act, you'll learn the lesson better than someone telling you to handle it differently.
I'm only asking why you didn't do what your posts have been demanding, and what you attacked me for not agreeing with. I'm not attacking your character. You're the one attacking me for my stance. I'm simply asking: why didn't you practice what you're preaching?

You're wrong, again, I'm not worried about parents getting angry.

Look, you seem to be unable to understand that the way you should respond to a claim from someone you don't know online in a forum, and how you should respond to a claim such as you've described.

And yes, digging someone's info up via Google and tracking them down on FB IS creepy and stalkerish.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:20 PM
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My question is, why are you two still arguing about it? What happened, happened. Although I hate what happened, it still happened, but ima try and make the best of things, and let God lead me through this mess.
Good question, Jacob.

I'm feeling offended for JD's sake, because he acted in a protective manner, and I appreciate that. n_david is attacking his character, and that is wrong, because JD's motives were pure, even if what he did is going to inconvenience you.

Further, it actually is unethical to fail to report abuse--even if the law doesn't require it. Acting ethically isn't about acting according to what is legal; it's all about doing the moral or right thing. In your case, the right thing to do is to make sure you are removed from your situation and that your foster parents are stopped from whatever it is that they are doing. Not just for your sake, either. If they abuse you, then it follows that they abuse others.

On the flip side, I do *get* n_david's concern, and I hope that you are telling the whole truth without exaggeration or embellishment. Not to be insulting, but he's right about one thing: we don't know you well enough to know one way or the other whether you are telling the truth. However, since you are a minor, the right thing to do is still to report it to authorities and let them investigate and decide the proper course of action. Courts usually prefer to keep families together, so if your grandparents want you with them, I'm sure that will be an option.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:24 PM
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I'm only asking why you didn't do what your posts have been demanding, and what you attacked me for not agreeing with. I'm not attacking your character. You're the one attacking me for my stance. I'm simply asking: why didn't you practice what you're preaching?
How am I not practicing what I'm preaching? He didn't confide in me, so therefore it's a moot point.

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You're wrong, again, I'm not worried about parents getting angry. ...
Then what are you worried about?
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:25 PM
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I didn't realize he was referring to abuse. There are lots of reasons a teenager can be unhappy at home which don't involve any abuse on the part of the parents/caretakers.
Before your first post, JD suggested to get law enforcement involved. Or did you miss that?

The posts were there. You can't claim what you're trying to claim. Sorry.

Don't attack me for my position when you don't even follow your own demands.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:27 PM
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Re: I need help!!!

I see where both of you are coming from. I understand that you don't know me well enough to decide if I'm truthful or not, but I do also see the other side as well. It most likely was the best thing to do. I very much appreciate the concern, but in my case, I do believe my plan was better, but then again, what would any know it all teen think? Whatever happens, happens. I'm just gonna let God have control. Thank you, and God bless.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:28 PM
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How am I not practicing what I'm preaching? He didn't confide in me, so therefore it's a moot point.
That's your cop out? His first post offered information to anyone who PM'd him. Not many posts after, before your first post, JD said he should get law enforcement involved.

I would think, what with your demands and attacks against me, that you would have contacted the authorities.

Again, why didn't you practice what you're preaching?
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:29 PM
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He offered in his first post. The only one who took his offer was JD.
I took his offer only AFTER his responses to me in this thread raised a red flag.

Why did it raise a red flag?

Go back and read the posts between Jacob and I.

You KNOW there was nothing creepy or even remotely stalker-ish about doing what I did.

If more people would report XXXX, then there would be less victims.

Seriously,
I am really shocked as to why any rational adult would criticize what I did, given the information I had received from the victim.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:30 PM
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Before your first post, JD suggested to get law enforcement involved. Or did you miss that?

The posts were there. You can't claim what you're trying to claim. Sorry.

Don't attack me for my position when you don't even follow your own demands.
Now you're calling me a liar? What on earth is wrong with you? I recommended that Jacob call an attorney and get advice in my post--so that he wouldn't end up being a ward of the state in his attempt to simply move out.

What demands am I not following? Jacob did NOT say that he was referring to abuse in any of his original posts. For your information, I didn't read every post on this thread before I responded. I guess I will have to go back and read NOW to see what I missed.

I didn't attack you for your position; you attacked JD for his and then you attacked me for backing him up. You're on the attack; others are on the defense. Get it straight.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:33 PM
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That's your cop out? His first post offered information to anyone who PM'd him. Not many posts after, before your first post, JD said he should get law enforcement involved.

I would think, what with your demands and attacks against me, that you would have contacted the authorities.

Again, why didn't you practice what you're preaching?
She wouldn't been able to tell the authorities anything if she didn't know the nature of the allegations.
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