Platform Standards

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by n david

Glad to see another thread about standards; indeed, yet one more on platform standards. [/sarcasm]

Look, if you don't like it, don't go. It's simple. If a church wants its staff to dress a certain way, they have every right to do so.

Good grief. People whine about platform standards, "IT'S NOT IN THE BIBLE!"


Beards aren't a sin, they just look tacky. I haven't heard anyone preach beards are a sin since the early/mid-80s.

That's the point. They may not say they think its a sin but by refusing to allow someone into the ministry who has one they are fostering that it IS a sin.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

That's the point. They may not say they think its a sin but by refusing to allow someone into the ministry who has one they are fostering that it IS a sin.

Who is doing this? What church are you attending, or have attended, which currently is doing this? Name one.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by n david

Who is doing this? What church are you attending, or have attended, which currently is doing this? Name one.

Are you kidding? You don't know of one Apostolic Church that has no beard "platform standard"?

I talked to the Pastor of an Apostolic Church a few weeks ago in Peshtigo Wis who told me that had a "platform" standard about beards.

The Apostolic Church here in Somerset has it. Apparently great numbers of "Apostolic" Churches do this or why would it be an issue?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Are you kidding? You don't know of one Apostolic Church that has no beard "platform standard"?

I talked to the Pastor of an Apostolic Church a few weeks ago in Peshtigo Wis who told me that had a "platform" standard about beards.

The Apostolic Church here in Somerset has it. Apparently great numbers of "Apostolic" Churches do this or why would it be an issue?

But what church do YOU attend where this is an issue? I'm not talking some church somewhere you heard had a platform standard. Are you going to a church where this is an issue?

To answer your question, yes, I do know of some churches that include beards and certain hair styles in their platform standards. I also know of some businesses I've worked for where you couldn't have a beard or wear certain things. What's the issue? Besides you having a beard.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by n david

But what church do YOU attend where this is an issue? I'm not talking some church somewhere you heard had a platform standard. Are you going to a church where this is an issue?

To answer your question, yes, I do know of some churches that include beards and certain hair styles in their platform standards. I also know of some businesses I've worked for where you couldn't have a beard or wear certain things. What's the issue? Besides you having a beard.

Well then why did you ask me this?

Who is doing this? What church are you attending, or have attended, which currently is doing this? Name one.

I am against it because it is false doctrine. Just as I discuss many other issues on this forum.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Well then why did you ask me this?

I wanted to know how this was affecting you. Apparently it doesn't have any affect on you, other than you don't like it.

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I am against it because it is false doctrine. Just as I discuss many other issues on this forum.

It's not a doctrine, false or otherwise! It's a preference, much like employers have for employees who represent them. Now, like many churches, most employers are starting to relax on beards. My current employer allows men to have trimmed beards; my last two employers didn't allow any facial hair at all.

I like "platform standards." I don't like the name, but i like what it does. The church I attend adopted "platform standards" a few years ago, then really didn't keep up on it and just recently re-emphasized them. Why? We had a drummer who liked coming in shorts and flip flops; had a guitar player who wore printed t-shirts and jeans, sometimes ripped. Now some may think that's awesome and whatever, but it's not. It's tacky.

[bishoph]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

That's the point. They may not say they think its a sin but by refusing to allow someone into the ministry who has one they are fostering that it IS a sin.

But why is it necessary that everyone accommodate you? Why must everyone see it your way or THEY are the ones wrong? Whatever happened to the desire for unity and the good of the whole rather than individual liberties? Paul said all things are lawful for me......in other words I can do pretty much anything I feel ok with doing.....but not all things are profitable....in other words not everything, though not "prohibited," is best for me or for the body.

If wearing a beard offends my brother, then I will not wear one as long as the world stands......sound familiar? We have become so "I" "ME" focused that we are far too often willing to push for our pet issues to the hurt of the whole. (And I realize that cuts both ways.)

I do not believe beards are of the devil, sin, nor will they keep one out of heaven. (Unless of course the issue cause one to become bitter) However, I do not have a problem with a church having "platform standards."

If you were to decide to make your career flipping hamburgers at Mc Donald's, you could work the line and make hamburgers for 40 years. They will give you a uniform and you will be required to wear it. But....if you decide you want to move into management, your uniform will change and you will have to become proficient at certain things, and your responsibilities change etc.. If you NEVER want to move up, you will still get paid from the same company and you'll still get benefits.

In like manner in a church, if a person wants to come to church for 20 years and worship God, enjoy the benefits of being in the church and be involved on some level....but they NEVER want to adhere to the "platform/leadership" standards.....they will get the same paycheck from the same company, and still receive their benefits.....but they won't be promoted to leadership unless they are willing to wear the uniform and accept the duties/responsibilities of that level of leadership.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

So you think pants on a woman is ok with God?

Doesn't bother Him at all, just men that are obsessed with what ladies wear.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by n david

Glad to see another thread about standards; indeed, yet one more on platform standards. [/sarcasm]

Look, if you don't like it, don't go. It's simple. If a church wants its staff to dress a certain way, they have every right to do so.

Good grief. People whine about platform standards, "IT'S NOT IN THE BIBLE!"


Beards aren't a sin, they just look tacky. I haven't heard anyone preach beards are a sin since the early/mid-80s.

Well... for once... its great to see the men arguing over men's "standards"... giving us women a break ...

[n david]

I blame Phil, Jase, Willie, Jep, Si, and Duck Dynasty in general for this!