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Old 07-14-2013, 02:56 PM
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When Hannity asked what he would say to Martin's parents, Zimmerman said:


"I would tell them that, again, I'm sorry. My wife and I don’t have any children. I have nephews that I love more than life. I love them more than myself. And I know when they were born, it was a different unique bond and love that I have with them. And I love my children even though they aren’t born yet. I am sorry that they buried their child. I can’t imagine what it must feel like. I pray for them daily."
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...erview-Hannity
I know that, but apologies are cheap, Prax...

When you consider that he doesn't regret one thing that happened, yeah, there's something wrong here.

I regret hitting a squirrel on the highway, and a man can't regret that this kid died?

I'm sorry...I'm done here...
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:08 PM
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I know that, but apologies are cheap, Prax...

When you consider that he doesn't regret one thing that happened, yeah, there's something wrong here.

I regret hitting a squirrel on the highway, and a man can't regret that this kid died?

I'm sorry...I'm done here...
So how would he show remorse? That seems a little biased to demand he be remorseful and when he apologizes reject it as "cheap"...

Your portrayal of the interview is also biased. Hannity did not merely ask "is there anything you regret? He asked specific questions if he regretted getting out of the car. He did not ask if he regretted shooting TM

HANNITY: Is there anything you regret? Do you regret getting out of the car to follow Trayvon that night?
ZIMMERMAN: No, sir.
HANNITY: Do you regret that you had a gun that night?
ZIMMERMAN: No, sir.
HANNITY: Do you feel you wouldn't be here for this interview if you didn't have that gun?
ZIMMERMAN: No, sir.
HANNITY: You feel you would not be here?
ZIMMERMAN: I feel it was all God's plan and for me to second guess it or judge it --

HANNITY: Is there anything you might do differently in retrospect now that the time has passed a little bit?
ZIMMERMAN: No, sir.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannit...#ixzz2Z3YOStqp


See? Hannity's questions were very direct
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:16 PM
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I don't know. So many here think I am ignorant of the facts because of my view and my comments, so I don't know what to think anymore.

IMO, I think he should have stayed in the car. I don't think he should have followed him.

And for those who think he DID show remorse, in the Hannity interview, Zimmerman was asked if there was anything he regretted...getting out of the car, etc.

And he said "NO!"

So, is he content with a young man, whether a thug or not, dying in the street?

You tell me...
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So how would he show remorse? That seems a little biased to demand he be remorseful and when he apologizes reject it as "cheap"...

Your portrayal of the interview is also biased. Hannity did not merely ask "is there anything you regret? He asked specific questions if he regretted getting out of the car. He did not ask if he regretted shooting TM

HANNITY: Is there anything you regret? Do you regret getting out of the car to follow Trayvon that night?
ZIMMERMAN: No, sir.
HANNITY: Do you regret that you had a gun that night?
ZIMMERMAN: No, sir.
HANNITY: Do you feel you wouldn't be here for this interview if you didn't have that gun?
ZIMMERMAN: No, sir.
HANNITY: You feel you would not be here?
ZIMMERMAN: I feel it was all God's plan and for me to second guess it or judge it --

HANNITY: Is there anything you might do differently in retrospect now that the time has passed a little bit?
ZIMMERMAN: No, sir.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannit...#ixzz2Z3YOStqp


See? Hannity's questions were very direct
Had you bothered to READ my post to you, you would have seen that I acknowledged the questions were direct.

And I am NOT biased. I merely have a differing opinion.

*sigh* Here is my regret...I regret I ever bothered to offer my opinion...
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:19 PM
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty!!!

A post worth sharing ~

WISE WORDS FOR THE NATION

My heart is heavy for that community right now, the Martin family for their tragic loss & the Zimmerman family who will live in fear & the nation, because this case brought out the ugliest of ugliness on both sides.

For those who think Zimmerman was really guilty, trust me, let it go. If he was lying & they got it wrong he WILL answer to a higher authority - there's no escaping that.

For those who are celebrating & support him, humble yourselves & do not give in to insensitive celebrating of a dead 17 year old nor should you throw this in anyone's face.

It's a tragedy all around.

The race-baiting, insensitivity & relentless vitriol from both sides means we have a LONG way to go as a nation.

This case didn't create any wounds or hatred, it revealed them. It brought them to the surface.
THAT is the real tragedy - that we have a ton of healing to do in terms of race relations in America.

It has only begun~
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:24 PM
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Had you bothered to READ my post to you, you would have seen that I acknowledged the questions were direct.

And I am NOT biased. I merely have a differing opinion.

*sigh* Here is my regret...I regret I ever bothered to offer my opinion...
Friend, your opinion is as valued as the next. This is where we all have our own personal opinions and we are free to post them. There are times we, as AFF posters, agree to disagree. Please, do not ever regret posting the way you feel. I sure do not and never will ~ *Hugs*
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Had you bothered to READ my post to you, you would have seen that I acknowledged the questions were direct.

And I am NOT biased. I merely have a differing opinion.

*sigh* Here is my regret...I regret I ever bothered to offer my opinion...
You implied GZ had no remorse. Your evidence was that interview because he said "NO" as if he was asked "Do you have any regrets?"

But that is not what he was asked. So that is not evidence he lacked regret or remorse for killing TM.

And in fact the evidence shows he apologized. He was sorry.

And yes I DID read your post. I did "bother to read it"..thats how I know you emphasized GZ's answer as "NO".

You also did not acknowledge anything about the line of questioning and had you then I have to ask why post it as evidence he did not regret shooting TM when the line of questioning had nothing to do with if he had regrets to shooting TM?
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Old 07-14-2013, 04:00 PM
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty!!!

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A post worth sharing ~

WISE WORDS FOR THE NATION

My heart is heavy for that community right now, the Martin family for their tragic loss & the Zimmerman family who will live in fear & the nation, because this case brought out the ugliest of ugliness on both sides.

For those who think Zimmerman was really guilty, trust me, let it go. If he was lying & they got it wrong he WILL answer to a higher authority - there's no escaping that.

For those who are celebrating & support him, humble yourselves & do not give in to insensitive celebrating of a dead 17 year old nor should you throw this in anyone's face.

It's a tragedy all around.

The race-baiting, insensitivity & relentless vitriol from both sides means we have a LONG way to go as a nation.

This case didn't create any wounds or hatred, it revealed them. It brought them to the surface.
THAT is the real tragedy - that we have a ton of healing to do in terms of race relations in America.

It has only begun~
I don't see what is wise about claiming people are celebrating the death of a 17 year old. Nobody is doing that except a marginal few crazies. Even those that believed GZ was not guilty and are glad that is how the jury voted, they are not celebrating his death. That's crazy

It's the emotionally charged that can make such an accusation. Most are saying no matter what, innocent or guilty, it's sad that TM died.

Making that sort of statement does not help the healing at all. It adds to it the evil speculation of those that believed GZ were innocent actually celebrate the death of a 17 year old...let alone any person's death
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Old 07-14-2013, 04:02 PM
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty!!!

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A post worth sharing ~

WISE WORDS FOR THE NATION

My heart is heavy for that community right now, the Martin family for their tragic loss & the Zimmerman family who will live in fear & the nation, because this case brought out the ugliest of ugliness on both sides.

For those who think Zimmerman was really guilty, trust me, let it go. If he was lying & they got it wrong he WILL answer to a higher authority - there's no escaping that.

For those who are celebrating & support him, humble yourselves & do not give in to insensitive celebrating of a dead 17 year old nor should you throw this in anyone's face.

It's a tragedy all around.

The race-baiting, insensitivity & relentless vitriol from both sides means we have a LONG way to go as a nation.

This case didn't create any wounds or hatred, it revealed them. It brought them to the surface.
THAT is the real tragedy - that we have a ton of healing to do in terms of race relations in America.

It has only begun~
The BIG issue is that ALL the "race baiting" and "relentless vitriol" is from the left.
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Old 07-14-2013, 04:09 PM
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i don't see what is wise about claiming people are celebrating the death of a 17 year old. Nobody is doing that except a marginal few crazies. Even those that believed gz was not guilty and are glad that is how the jury voted, they are not celebrating his death. That's crazy

it's the emotionally charged that can make such an accusation. Most are saying no matter what, innocent or guilty, it's sad that tm died.

Making that sort of statement does not help the healing at all. It adds to it the evil speculation of those that believed gz were innocent actually celebrate the death of a 17 year old...let alone any person's death
I did not write this , I seen it and reposted it! I however think it was a good post....there again ... In ones own opinion!
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty!!!

Actually Zimmerman is simply guilty of poor judgment.
If I was in his situation I do not know if I would have done any better, but here is my take.

Zimmerman was too zealous in his actions, of course if you have a gun you can afford to be more courageous.
However I do believe he made the poor decision to get out of his car.

MT also made poor judgment choices, by confronting Zimmerman.

This case was never about racism, but about two guys who simply made poor choices in their actions.
It was only the media circus which tried to turn it into a racists case.
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