Jail/Homosexuality

[Tim Rutledge]

Originally Posted by odooley6985

In your opinion being the key word. I dont see it like that. Do you have any scripture to back that up? Like I said, it seems like you are less offended at some sin and disgusted and less tolerable for other sin. I dont think GOD is like that.

I'm ok with you being wrong.

[odooley6985]

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

I'm ok with you being wrong.

Again do you have scripture for your point?

[OldPathsII]

Originally Posted by Ferd

OK, I agree with Aquilla about being nice while still standing against sin.

He and I have agreed early on about marriage being removed from debate by getting it out of the law.

However, I am starting to see the gay movement as a bunch of bullies. I dont do weill with bullies. I generally go up to them and punch them in the nose. my eyes get wobbly and I get irrational and I tend to get nasty and fight dirty and I am seriously starting to feel that this is the ONLY way to deal with this.

Ferdina, not saying you ARE this, because that would be a violation of the rules, but you SOUND like a spineless, schmuck, coward who's probably too scared to swat a fly. But you get to come here, hide behind a screen, and talk tough and make veiled threats to gay people.

What I definitely CAN say you are, is completely ignorant of reality, completely clueless, and have no idea what really goes on within the hearts of the gay community. It's people like you that keep a large part of culture in the dark ages.

Maybe I'll create a fake profile, declare that I'm gay, give you my address, and see just how tough you are. Actually, I think I already know.

[Dichotomy Girl]

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

Will the Apostolic Church continue to teach/preach against homosexuality?... even if it means going to jail?
I see it as only a matter of time, 2-10 years and it will be illegal to preach against the sin of homosexuality.
I pray I'm wrong.

It's been over 50 years since the Civil rights movement and desegretation, and it's still not illegal to be a member of the KKK or the Neo-Nazi's. But it is however illegal to refuse to employ or rent to someone because of their race, religion or sexual orientation.

[FlamingZword]

Threats of physical violence by either side are no way to discuss any issue.
things just escalate after that
we need to diffuse this discussion a little bit.

[odooley6985]

Originally Posted by Dichotomy Girl

It's been over 50 years since the Civil rights movement and desegretation, and it's still not illegal to be a member of the KKK or the Neo-Nazi's. But it is however illegal to refuse to employ or rent to someone because of their race, religion or sexual orientation.

This. People who think this will happen are delusional at best and paranoid at the least.

[OldPathsII]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Threats of physical violence by either side are no way to discuss any issue.
things just escalate after that
we need to diffuse this discussion a little bit.

I agree. Ferd's veiled threats were something like Barney Fife thinking he's The Incredible Hulk. The Gay Community are bullies? Idiocy.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by OldPathsII

I agree. Ferd's veiled threats were something like Barney Fife thinking he's The Incredible Hulk. The Gay Community are bullies? Idiocy.

Veiled?!

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by OldPathsII

Ferdina, not saying you ARE this, because that would be a violation of the rules, but you SOUND like a spineless, schmuck, coward who's probably too scared to swat a fly. But you get to come here, hide behind a screen, and talk tough and make veiled threats to gay people.

What I definitely CAN say you are, is completely ignorant of reality, completely clueless, and have no idea what really goes on within the hearts of the gay community. It's people like you that keep a large part of culture in the dark ages.

Maybe I'll create a fake profile, declare that I'm gay, give you my address, and see just how tough you are. Actually, I think I already know.

OPII, thank you for playing. It is especially nice to hear from you.

Lets be very clear about some things.

I have never once said unkind things about gay people. I have repeatedly stated that there is no constitutional way America can justify the unequal treatment under the law that exists currently (or at least before DOMA was struck down).

I have worked for gay bosses, I have eaten meals with gay people, I actually lived in a house with a couple of gay guys back in my navy days without ever thinking one bad thought about them being gay.

gay people are not in any way an issue. The issue is the MOVEMENT. Go back and re-read my post. I said the gay movement have become bullies. and Bullies cause me to bow up a bit. That is a fact. there are more than a few out there with whom I have had contact. They will tell you that win or lose, I dont generally back down.

I did not avocate beating up gay people. I am at a point of standing up and getting very vocal in opposition to the very real threats being issued by those leading this "movement".

As for me being a coward, lets let the folks here judge between me and thee.... ive been around for a while and this aint my first rodeo.

[OldPathsII]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Actually gays have hijacked the issue of "bullying". I don't recall very much bullying of gay people at least no more than others. Yes there have been some gay people bullied because of their gayness. Yet many others are bullied for some other reasons.

I was terribly bullied as a young person. Why? I was smaller than the average guy. That made me a target to up and coming bullies. Many are bullied simply for that. No political or religious cause.

Bullies have always been evil. They push their way to the top. Its just odd to me that the term "bully" is now only heard in terms of the "gay" movement.

Moronic.