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Originally Posted by NewbieMisfits
I had no intentions of any disrespect to any member of AFF when asking for scriptural reference to this.
Us misfit's are scripturally ignorant in understanding. We have been on a major learning curve for 2 months now, it's great, but then I hear something like this & rather than sweeping it under the rug (being in denial or fake about it) I choose in finding my own truth on the matter. I have not found my truth (good ro ugly) on this yet, but have been gaining much insight from everyone. (Thanks to both sides on the matter).
Sure, my gut turns at the very thought of this, but then it has turned at other things that were proven to be truth. So in the end I've learned to check myself rather just simply go along with myself.  Peace |
So... what have you concluded so far?
Better yet... what are the presuppositions you are starting with?
For example... if all humans are born with an inherited 'sin nature' that damns them to hell, then it is inescapable that infants are already hellbound, and if they die before they grow up and are able to repent then not only are the 'going to hell' but that was the only option they had to begin with. The only escape from that conclusion is to assert that God somehow 'forgives' their sinful nature... but then when does that happen? If God forgives their sinful nature then has He not done it for everyone, since everyone starts out as a child? Or does God forgive it until 'the age of accountability' and then God suddenly chooses to take His forgiveness back?
On the other hand, if you begin with the presupposition that humans are born morally neutral, neither good nor evil, then the question is 'does God foresee what they would have done if they had lived to an age of maturity, and judge them based on that?' Seems kind of strange for God to judge anyone based on what they might have done as opposed to what they did in fact do... Then again, I don't know of any Scripture which either states or teaches that God judges men based on what He knew they would do - but did not actually do. Seems to me Scripture says God judges men according to their works. Surely that would mean works actually done or intended to be done, not works not actually committed (not even in intent).
But then there is another consideration...
Eternal life is given to those who believe. If all dead/aborted babies/fetuses/infants get eternal life, then
the vast majority of the resurrected and immortal saints will consist of such people. Yet I am not sure that is taught or implied in Scripture.
Perhaps the old doctrine of 'limbo' has some merit after all?
Or perhaps we have all missed something about the whole goal of redemption and the gospel...
--and at the end of the day, you cannot be edified by any answer; you either believe that God tortures little kids, or not.
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