Is TV now the norm in the UPCI home?

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

The two people I have quoted have made statements that I agree with. As I stated earlier - I don't have a "TV" in my home. At one time, we did have TV; however, as a family, we made the choice that we didn't want it in our home - NOT because the preacher told us not to have it.

I've been raised in this thing - am still in this thing, so I'm not whistling in the dark here. For many years, as Barb stated, things were "preached against." It wasn't a "heart issue", it was a list of rules. Things you could do and things you could not do. It was never things you should not do.

In my opinion, preaching "against" stuff isn't going to get people into Heaven. Teaching and preaching that encourage people to develop a personal relationship with Jesus, encouraging them to WALK WITH HIM on a daily basis, teaching them to allow the Holy Ghost to speak to them and convict them, teaching them to live like JESUS taught while here on earth - these are the things that will get people into Heaven!

Too many people think as long as they were filled with the Holy Ghost at one time, follow the list of rules, "look" just right and "look" the part they are going to make it. All the while these same people are living from one service to the next on a Holy Ghost emotional "high" and have never learned about the depth of the experience that they have that can lead and guide them. They depend solely upon the preacher to tell them what they can and can't do.

My aged (almost 100) mom can't get out much and she has a TV. She watches certain channels with only preaching, gospel singing, etc. The only "show" she watches is Wheel of Fortune. She gets so excited when she can figure out the puzzle before the contestant. I personally believe that watching that particular show helps keep her mind sharper. She doesn't even watch the news because she says it depresses her. You won't find a more Godly lady with a more Christ-like attitude. She has been filled with the Holy Ghost for MANY years. Don't even try to tell me that she isn't going to Heaven because she has that little box sitting in her living room!

And Whole Hearted, I was shocked beyond words the first time I realized that there are UPC ministers that have TVs in their homes; but believe me they ARE out there. Many more than you would think. I am shocked to hear some of them talk about particular shows that they watch on a regular basis. Some of them, if they don't have TV with cable or satellite can't wait until particular shows come out on DVD and then they buy the entire season. Or they simply subscribe to Netflix. {I just recently found out that Netflix has all the TV shows available. I thought it was just for "renting" movies because you didn't want to go to the local Blockbuster (or some other "video rental" store).}

I appreciate the ministry that take a stand against certain things; IF they do it in a spirit of love and not with a Pharisaical attitude. But I really have a problem with the ones who pick and choose what they think is wrong.

I agree with the concept of what you said here.

Although we have a TV my husband is a Hugh sport fan, it can most definitely be a time stealer.

[Dichotomy Girl]

My Netflix Instant Queue is insane, and as much as I love TV, I'm a bookworm first and foremost, so that sweet hour after the baby is in bed, and my "chores" are down, I am much more likely to pick up a book.

Ha ha ha! I'm more holy then all y'all!

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Dichotomy Girl

My Netflix Instant Queue is insane, and as much as I love TV, I'm a bookworm first and foremost, so that sweet hour after the baby is in bed, and my "chores" are down, I am much more likely to pick up a book.

Ha ha ha! I'm more holy then all y'all!

Depends on whether you pick up THE book or A book

[Dichotomy Girl]

Originally Posted by Esther

Depends on whether you pick up THE book or A book

That was pretty good. I concede

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

To me a rule against having a "television" today is the equivalent of a rule against having a ban against any magazine that holds more than 7 rounds.

Yeah, but 'reasonable restrictions' on 'high channel-capacity' tv's are probably good common sense, right?

lol

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Yeah, but 'reasonable restrictions' on 'high channel-capacity' tv's are probably good common sense, right?

lol

[canam]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I have a tv that I don't watch it that often but when I do, I watch the news or Law & Order, Dexter, Homeland, 1,000 Ways to Die, O'Reily Factor, Hardball with Chris Matthews, National Geographic specials, History Channel specials, the Weather Channel, WWE, some PPV MMA fights, NFL and College Football, NBA and NCAA Basketball, Seinfeld re-runs, Golden Girls, Burn Notice, Hot In Cleveland, Sunny in Philladelphia, I (Almost) Got Away With It, Scared Straight, Sins & Secrets, Unusual Suspects, Fatal Encounters, a few BET and MTV music videos, Ridiculousness, TOSH.0, Wheel of Fortune, Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader, Would You Like to be a Millionaire, Swamp People, South Park, The Simpsons, The Clevelands, Pawn Stars, Shipping Wars, 48 Hours, some HBO, Cinemax, Shotime, TMC movies in English and in Spanish (depending on how I feel)-- of and when I miss church on Sundays, I'll make sure to watch Joel O'Steen because he always anesticizes my pain WITHOUT asking for that much money.

HARDBALL WITH CHRIS MATTHEWS ??? !!! Heal his brain oh Lord/eh make that both of em !

But for real, I don't watch that much tv.

HARDBALL WITH CHRIS MATTHEWS ??? !!! Heal his brain oh Lord/eh make that both of em !

[houston]

So basically, KC's UPC church is like most other UPC churches... The pastor is licensed with the denomination, but the denomination doesn't own the edifice or the land.

[ILG]

I've been without a computer for a few days but have mine back up running now so I am just now responding to this thread. We've been outta the UPC for, what? Wow, 8 years now! Anyway. We still don't have a TV hooked up. No point to it. I work at the library and get commercial free videos and we also watch our own stuff on our own computers. I have no desire for a TV.

[LifeUncommon]

The "no tv" rule is stupid. A tv is just a piece of equipment. You can use it to access television shows and movies. But you can do the same thing through your computer, tablet or phone. Has the UPC outlawed computers, tablets and phones? To be consistent, they would have to.

This is a good example of why manmade rules don't work and why we should let the word of God be enough. Adding to it does not benefit us.