Former Memphis area pastor preaching a conference

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by CC1

When I saw this thread for the first time this evening and looked at the poster advertising the conference the first thing I thought was that somebody was playing a joke and had been busy in photoshop, etc.

Pretty shocking but then not really if TB is as unrepentant and unapologetic as it appears.

Those of you that follow my posts on AFF know that I have said since for years that I am always very leery of any preacher whose place in the wide spectrum of Pentecost suddenly shifts greatly.

It is possible that a rigid conservative preacher could change to a more liberal one from the trauma of being discovered in gross moral failure and the process of starting over.

However that would only be after a long period of introspection, Bible Study, counseling, humbleness, repentance, asking for forgiveness, oh and that whole "humbleness" thing is worth mentioning again along with meekness.

Any pastor in his situation ought to have enough sense to sit himself down and work through everything in his life and his relationship with God, his wife, his family, and the folks that he was previously shepherding.

This is way too soon to be publicly talking about your "restoration". As somebody else said "Good Grief!"

[Monterrey]

There seems to be a lot of this recently. And none of the men are willing to fess up!

Jokers!

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by CC1

When I saw this thread for the first time this evening and looked at the poster advertising the conference the first thing I thought was that somebody was playing a joke and had been busy in photoshop, etc.

Pretty shocking but then not really if TB is as unrepentant and unapologetic as it appears.

Those of you that follow my posts on AFF know that I have said since for years that I am always very leery of any preacher whose place in the wide spectrum of Pentecost suddenly shifts greatly.

It is possible that a rigid conservative preacher could change to a more liberal one from the trauma of being discovered in gross moral failure and the process of starting over.

However that would only be after a long period of introspection, Bible Study, counseling, humbleness, repentance, asking for forgiveness, oh and that whole "humbleness" thing is worth mentioning again along with meekness.

Any pastor in his situation ought to have enough sense to sit himself down and work through everything in his life and his relationship with God, his wife, his family, and the folks that he was previously shepherding.

This is way too soon to be publicly talking about your "restoration". As somebody else said "Good Grief!"

Yep, What you said!

I figured you would see this and respond eventually!

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by not4saken

Forgiveness is INSTANT. Restoration is a PROCESS.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

And they gonna charge $50 bucks to go............

Shoot (pun intended), I'd almost be willing to pay the $50 to hear what they had to say.

[not4saken]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Shoot (pun intended), I'd almost be willing to pay the $50 to hear what they had to say.

"Shoot"...hmmmmm ...Would THIS be classified as Pentecostal Cussin??? LOL
j/k...as for the 50.00- I agree with ya there!! HEEHEE...

[not4saken]

Apology accepted...carry on

Originally Posted by forced2view

I knew I should not have tried to add the smiley.....I do not see well, and I did not realize that it was a pacifier smiley, I just thought it was a regular one. I do apologize sincerely.

[not4saken]

Originally Posted by Godzchild

OK...let me clearify something to the ones who think I was being judgemental.......correct me if I am wrong....but YOUR PASTOR WIFE IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN EXAMPLE??????? ALONG WITH YOUR ASST. PASTORS WIFE AS WELL????? ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was merely stateing that my former pastor/asst. pastors wives never "looked the example" of a UPC PASTORS WIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No...hair should never be an issue for salvation. And for "MY RANTINGS" , please excuse them as such to you or anyone who may have taken them as such. I was merely responding to someone elses post about TB and his wife!!!! This should have never been taken as to be towards someone else!!!!! For this reason, I ask those who took this as an attack on "hair length meaning anything"....forgive me for coming across as such! As for NOT4SAKEN.....bc of other things that happened to my family, my daughter and husband has walked away and said they will never go back.....and only thro private messages I will be more than happy to talk with you again. I am so sorry that I really did offend you or anyone for that matter. I am struggling with my walk daily and with things that I have no control over but they are so close to me that they cut deeply. I need everyones prayers and one day I know God will trun my husband and daughter back on the right track. I am a former member of TPC and what TB done to my family and the lies he lived is still very hurtful and it makes me cry but if I do not forgive and move on it will consume me and I refuse to allow the devil control on my life. God will sustain and restore in HIS time! I do apologize for any posts that may have been hurtful to someone else.

Sis...apology accepted.
Now, let me say sumthin to you, and please don't get offended. When I joined AFF the first time, several years ago- I was a hurt, disappointed, angry and disallussioned saint. Raised in a one-ness Apostolic preacher's home and 5th generation Oneness Pentecostal, I thot I KNEW what living for God the 'right' way should be like. I also thot I knew how saints in the pews should be treated by the ministry. I also thot that I could come on here and rant and spew all kinds of bitterness and bile (no names mentioned in my posts) against the unfair way I and my family had been treated, and folks would coddle me and pat on me, and agree about how unfairly I had been treated. WRONG. Coonskinner, Old paths, Bro. Epley, CC1, Renda, and lots of others on AFF back then, blasted me right back when I wasn't thinking right. I will forever be grateful for these people being in my life at the time. They helped me see things from different perspectives and they helped me heal. I was forever changed by my time here back then. Because of this experience, I can easily spot when posts are written out of anger, or bitterness, or when not a lot of thot was given before posts were typed. Maybe I'm just super sensitive to this type of poster, because I was one at one time.

I can appreciate when folks are hurt, and dealt wrongly with, and they're disallussioned with people. I have been there. I think of you a lot during the day, and pray for your family and all of TB's past saints. I can only hope and pray that there will not be any souls lost because of TB and his selfish lusts.

Maybe we can start again. I hope we understand each other a little better

Love and prayers, Lynne

[CC1]

Originally Posted by not4saken

Sis...apology accepted.
Now, let me say sumthin to you, and please don't get offended. When I joined AFF the first time, several years ago- I was a hurt, disappointed, angry and disallussioned saint. Raised in a one-ness Apostolic preacher's home and 5th generation Oneness Pentecostal, I thot I KNEW what living for God the 'right' way should be like. I also thot I knew how saints in the pews should be treated by the ministry. I also thot that I could come on here and rant and spew all kinds of bitterness and bile (no names mentioned in my posts) against the unfair way I and my family had been treated, and folks would coddle me and pat on me, and agree about how unfairly I had been treated. WRONG. Coonskinner, Old paths, Bro. Epley, CC1, Renda, and lots of others on AFF back then, blasted me right back when I wasn't thinking right. I will forever be grateful for these people being in my life at the time. They helped me see things from different perspectives and they helped me heal. I was forever changed by my time here back then. Because of this experience, I can easily spot when posts are written out of anger, or bitterness, or when not a lot of thot was given before posts were typed. Maybe I'm just super sensitive to this type of poster, because I was one at one time.

I can appreciate when folks are hurt, and dealt wrongly with, and they're disallussioned with people. I have been there. I think of you a lot during the day, and pray for your family and all of TB's past saints. I can only hope and pray that there will not be any souls lost because of TB and his selfish lusts.

Maybe we can start again. I hope we understand each other a little better

Love and prayers, Lynne

All of those who insist that AFF is "just entertainment" need to read this post. AFF can and does help people.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by CC1

I am right there with you! I was at a store today trying to see if they had the size ammo I needed on a shelf behind the counter. I finally had to wait for someone to help me as I could only read about 1/3 of the boxes (the ones with large print!)

You must need the EXTRA LARGE targets at the shooting range