What the World Sees as Apostolic

[tv1a]

OGIA,
No one can explain apostolic scripturally. It is all speculation. Rosie O'Donnell is just as apostolic as you are. Picking a few words of scriptures for a selective self serving definitions doesn't mean a thing. We know legalism breeds self-serving definitions. Can't call electronice video devices a television. Have to call it a monitor to get by the standards patrol. Can't have television because of the junk that's on it. But it's okay to have internet access.

Even if I wanted to explain what an apostolic is, there are no scriptures to define what an apostolic is. I choose to stay in the Word. People can make up their own minds.

I notice the novel approach of denying the fact your definition of apostolic is not a mainstream definition of apostolic. You're pseudo concern of whether I'm sharing my faith or not is irrelevant to the conversation.

Your post proves since you have no credible defense against the message, to attack the messager. Annas and Ciaaphas would be so proud of you.

Originally Posted by OGIA

Bro. Strange,

I agree with your post, but I don't see what it has to do with the thread? Someone spoke to an educated, religious woman who thought "Apostolic" was defined by outward standards and with legalism. It was also said, "She doesn't equate an apostolic as being a spirit filled believer who operates in the power and demonstration of the Holy Ghost."

While your post has truth in it, it does not answer the problem this woman has. She might be educated and religious, but she is not born again (that I've read) and apparently no one has ever taken the time to talk with her about what she believes and why, and, even moreso, explain scripturally what "Apostolic" does mean.

I don't see it and can't assume it didn't happen, but I wonder if the originator of this thread has an Apostolic church which "operates in the power and demonstration of the Holy Ghost" to take her to? If so, was she invited?

Also, I wonder how the originator of this thread answered this educated, religious woman's definition? Did he/she attempt to define "Apostolic" by scripture, or did he/she just agree and reinforce this woman's ignorance? If the latter, then I don't know why he/she would even start this thread, seeing as he/she shirked his/her responsibility to this woman.

It's fun to come on and bash standards, but I wonder if the educated, religious woman in this thread is any closer to being born again than she was before the conversation? That's what it's all about, isn't it?

[Thad]

Originally Posted by tv1a

OGIA,
No one can explain apostolic scripturally. It is all speculation. Rosie O'Donnell is just as apostolic as you are. Picking a few words of scriptures for a selective self serving definitions doesn't mean a thing. We know legalism breeds self-serving definitions. Can't call electronice video devices a television. Have to call it a monitor to get by the standards patrol. Can't have television because of the junk that's on it. But it's okay to have internet access.

Even if I wanted to explain what an apostolic is, there are no scriptures to define what an apostolic is. I choose to stay in the Word. People can make up their own minds.

I notice the novel approach of denying the fact your definition of apostolic is not a mainstream definition of apostolic. You're pseudo concern of whether I'm sharing my faith or not is irrelevant to the conversation.

Your post proves since you have no credible defense against the message, to attack the messager. Annas and Ciaaphas would be so proud of you.

This post is was posted with a Bad Spirit. now, I too have not been able to eqaute the difference between preaching agianst TV and internet either knowing how detrimental both can be and perhaps internet being the worst of the 2 evils, but to refer to OGIA as a Rosie Odonnell is really Low

[tv1a]

ogia,
btw, the innuendos will not be dignified with a response because you are attempting to trivialize someone who has a diffrent opinion. This post is one of the most psuedo intellectual posts I've seen in a while.

One doesn't have enough time to explain how a clothesline doctrine fits into signs following a believer. It takes a lot of hot air to make sense out man made standards.

Originally Posted by OGIA

Bro. Strange,

I agree with your post, but I don't see what it has to do with the thread? Someone spoke to an educated, religious woman who thought "Apostolic" was defined by outward standards and with legalism. It was also said, "She doesn't equate an apostolic as being a spirit filled believer who operates in the power and demonstration of the Holy Ghost."

While your post has truth in it, it does not answer the problem this woman has. She might be educated and religious, but she is not born again (that I've read) and apparently no one has ever taken the time to talk with her about what she believes and why, and, even moreso, explain scripturally what "Apostolic" does mean.

I don't see it and can't assume it didn't happen, but I wonder if the originator of this thread has an Apostolic church which "operates in the power and demonstration of the Holy Ghost" to take her to? If so, was she invited?

Also, I wonder how the originator of this thread answered this educated, religious woman's definition? Did he/she attempt to define "Apostolic" by scripture, or did he/she just agree and reinforce this woman's ignorance? If the latter, then I don't know why he/she would even start this thread, seeing as he/she shirked his/her responsibility to this woman.

It's fun to come on and bash standards, but I wonder if the educated, religious woman in this thread is any closer to being born again than she was before the conversation? That's what it's all about, isn't it?

[tv1a]

If you've read my previous posts, I have said anyone can make a legitimate claim to the term apostolic. Rosie O'Donnell could pull something out of the Bible and say she's apostolic. No bad attitude intended. Apostolic is a subjective term that people get all worked up over with no real reason. When taken in context of my previous posts on similar discussions, it all makes sense. I'm not suggesting OGIA & Rosie O'Donnell have something in common. I'm stating that R O'D can make a subjective claim as easy as OGIA. How you can get a bad spirit out of that is beyond me. The innuendos from ogia suggests more of a bad spirit from that side than mine.

Hope that clears it up.

Originally Posted by Thad

This post is was posted with a Bad Spirit. now, I too have not been able to eqaute the difference between preaching agianst TV and internet either knowing how detrimental both can be and perhaps internet being the worst of the 2 evils, but to refer to OGIA as a Rosie Odonnell is really Low

[tv1a]

Thad,

I am reminded of a conversation on another forum, maybe there is a thread about it here about a homosexual apostolic congregation in the midwest. The point is even a homosexual can find scriptures to validate their definition of apostolic. Do I find that outrageous? You bet I do. But I also realize they are using the same techniques of customizing the definition to fit a particular agenda.

[berkeley]

tv1a.. it's a lost cause with these folk!!!

[rrford]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

tv1a.. it's a lost cause with these folk!!!

Berkeley,

Are you Apostolic?

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by rrford

Berkeley,

Are you Apostolic?

If I say yes.. someone will find something wrong with me and say that I'm not..

If I say no then I have no business in this discussion..

why do you inquire??

[tv1a]

The Ozzy Osbourne quote in my signature says it all.

Originally Posted by Berkeley

tv1a.. it's a lost cause with these folk!!!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by rrford

Berkeley,

Are you Apostolic?

I'm more Apostolic than he is .... no doubt ... and I got you beat to RR.