Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by seekerman

The point is that Abraham tithed.

what did he tithe? you cant just say the point is he tithed......


How can you link that to the new testament and say we all should do this.

If that was the case we need to knock down a kingdom or go into some ungodly peoples houses take all they have then bring 10% of it to the church and say yea, we got it off of some ungodly sinners.......

Thats what he did and to rescue his nephew

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by acerrak

what did he tithe? you cant just say the point is he tithed......


How can you link that to the new testament and say we all should do this.

If that was the case we need to knock down a kingdom or go into some ungodly peoples houses take all they have then bring 10% of it to the church and say yea, we got it off of some ungodly sinners.......

Thats what he did and to rescue his nephew

Yes, I can say that Abraham tithed because that's exactly what he did. He tithed to Melchizedek. Someone instructed Him to do this as some point in his life and he was obedient to that instruction.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Yes, I can say that Abraham tithed because that's exactly what he did. He tithed to Melchizedek. Someone instructed Him to do this as some point in his life and he was obedient to that instruction.

so you just said i can go and take from the ungodly sinners and give it to the church.
you dont understand what tithes was, what the purpose of them are for, and your not listening to what paul wrote as to why we give money.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by acerrak

so you just said i can go and take from the ungodly sinners and give it to the church.
you dont understand what tithes was, what the purpose of them are for, and your not listening to what paul wrote as to why we give money.

Abraham paid tithes to honor God. Where it came from is irrelevant.

I tithe to honor the highest priest of the Melchizedek priesthood similar to what Abraham did. I've not slaughtered kings, but I have prospered in the Kingdom economy of God and tithe from that.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Abraham paid tithes to honor God. Where it came from is irrelevant.

I tithe to honor the highest priest of the Melchizedek priesthood similar to what Abraham did. I've not slaughtered kings, but I have prospered in the Kingdom economy of God and tithe from that.

why dont you except what Paul stated? does his words not mean anything to you.

again im not against Giving, giving is Good, but preaching something that is not there is not good either.

we are to be a cheerful Giver. and if your a cheerful giver then great, but if your teaching others that you must give 10% then your in error.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Abraham paid tithes to honor God. Where it came from is irrelevant.

I tithe to honor the highest priest of the Melchizedek priesthood similar to what Abraham did. I've not slaughtered kings, but I have prospered in the Kingdom economy of God and tithe from that.

We can't assume and speculate what God wants and make a doctrine out of it. That process would never be accepted as a way to rightly define/divide the word.

Why didn't those who's craft was not in food production under the Mosaic law tithe? Abraham's tithe would not have been accepted. Too many gaps using Abraham as an example to make a doctrine. How could Jacob have room to discuss tithing with God if it was a forever principle? Surely seeing Abraham was his grandfather he would have known to tithe without making conditions with God.

One cannot be found guilty if there is no law/command to break. I see no command to tithe money.


Could I just tithe from my garden? Would this be acceptable?

[Jacob's Ladder]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Again, tithing was introduced long before the Mosaic law. To try to link tithing solely to Mosaic law is error, IMO.

Again, animal sacrifice was also introduced before the Mosaic Law. To try to link tithing solely to Mosaic law is error, IMO

[Jacob's Ladder]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

I don't think it should be tied to salvation at all either. That being said, I have lots of testimonies where God has taken care of me financially because I always at the very least gave and reaped what I have sown. I'm not a preacher that shoves tithing down someone's throat, however, I give good reasons why tithing should be given cheerfully.

I've heard preachers state, "tithe and you'll be blessed," and "tithe and you'll receive multiple financial blessings." Then two months later the tithing congregant loses his house.

Is God to blame? Do you understand the avenue I'm trying to show you? People will become resentment toward God.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

Again, animal sacrifice was also introduced before the Mosaic Law.

Prayer and worship was introduced before the Mosaic law too but we're not to cease practicing prayer and worship.

We have the perfect sacrifice to offer, the Lamb of God, who put an end to animal sacrifices. Prayer, worship and tithing, all introduced before the Mosaic law, are still in effect.

To try to link tithing solely to Mosaic law is error, IMO

I agree it's error. Tithing was introduced before the Mosaic law.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

I've heard preachers state, "tithe and you'll be blessed," and "tithe and you'll receive multiple financial blessings." Then two months later the tithing congregant loses his house.

Is God to blame? Do you understand the avenue I'm trying to show you? People will become resentment toward God.

When someone says become a Christian and your life will change for the better but it doesn't, at least to the extent they expect, that causes resentment also.