What Could Go Wrong in the U.S.

[Praxeas]

Personally I think that with health care reform, it needs to start small. See how it goes, then take another step etc etc

[Walks_in_islam]

Thank you. In the area of healthcare for myself and my family I'll settle for personal experience inside or outside of the US. I must respectfully note that your articles do not answer the question. You keep posting material that describes the terrible public healthcare systems in these countries. Nobody asked for that material. Nobody actually cares about this material. Fox news can tell us how terrible things are and how great our healthcare system is. This is what most people want - long, healthy lives. So:

[B]The top ten countries with the highest average life expectancy for 2010 are as follows:

1.Macau
2.Andorra
3.Japan
4.Singapore
5.Hong Kong
6.Australia
7.Canada
8.France
9.Sweden
10.Switzerland

On a personal level:

From the latest position in the world (dropped from 24th to 49th in 10 years) and as a recipient of the goodwill of your neighbors, (many of who pay medicare/medicaid insurance on every dime they make for you and your retired colleagues yet have no healthcare coverage for themselves at all,) who are you to look up 42 spots and give your opinion about what is or is not good about someone else's healthcare system? See comment on your neighbors who pay your healthcare with no coverage themselves and note that you actually have no right to speak for them or on their behalf.

Originally Posted by HaShaliach

I trust the references provided (above) satisfies your desire for data. Of course that information (facts, figures, actual events), and a whole lot more, are available to anyone interested in what is going on in the 'real world' of health care.

Plus, as noted above, Canada seems to have a few health care problems of its own.

[A.W. Bowman]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Personally I think that with health care reform, it needs to start small. See how it goes, then take another step etc etc

Thank you!

* Decide what the final product is to look like (operate, goal).
* In order to 'fix' anything, one must first decide what is broken.
* Identify the part(s that are not working (don't fix what is working).
* Work on a selected part(s) to ensure that the plan for correction is the correct one (measured results)
* Make changes to the plan as necessary.

[A.W. Bowman]

Walks_in_islam -

Thank you for your participation in this discussion and expressing your views, they are appreciated. I have found your ideas to be both interesting and informative. I also find your expressed position(s) to be established upon a philosophical foundation that is immune to challenge.

Therefore, I concede this exchange.

[Walks_in_islam]

Always a pleasure

Originally Posted by HaShaliach

Walks_in_islam -

Thank you for your participation in this discussion and expressing your views, they are appreciated. I have found your ideas to be both interesting and informative. I also find your expressed position(s) to be established upon a philosophical foundation that is immune to challenge.

Therefore, I concede this exchange.