How about being fired....just get them out of there, no second chances. The public may feel better about this invasion of privacy if they knew for a fact that this kind of behavior was dealt with fast and furious.
The TSA has very high standards. The nature of their job requires that they be a bit intrusive. Security directives also govern their actions. A gross violation could result in dismissal or leave without pay. Each situation has to be looked at individually.
Also... Aquila... you keep saying... you don't have to fly... that's your right.
Apparently not because the guy that refused to be groped the other day and then chose his "right" to travel another way is having an $11,000 fine assessed against him for exercising that right even after TSA goons told him the same thing you are saying.
I'd like to know the details of the case in question.
I'm stepping away for 20 minutes. I'll actually be standing at our checkpoint where the TSA screens passengers. One of my buddies is a TSA BDO, his job is quite interesting. I've considered applying for it. I'll watch the passangers going through screening and report what I see when I return.
So are you a gubment worker that blogs on the internet while on the time clock?
Big government. Your BIG gubment agenda will solve no problems.
Government workers are number one in the use of employer computers for porn at work and surfing the web on the clock. In fact, Lands End and other catalog companies say government workers do shopping online from worjk more frequently than from home.
Have you ever worked in aviation security and been given a security directive regarding a creditable threat, knowing that it's your job to protect the lives of every passenger passing through checkpoint?
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and further, the invasive seach proceedures are not the best proceedures to catch the guys that need to be caught.
What proceedures do you suggest?
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Now, if the TSA has a tip that FERD may try to do something really bad, then when FERD walks into an airport, they have the right to arrest me and do a legal investagation that might include a full body cavity search. but they need a court order to do so.
What if the individuals aren't identified?
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The good news is FERD doesnt have any intention of getting on a plane any time soon and FERD does not have any desire to do harm to any living human being... next year however, there is a better than zero chance that FERD will be seeking to do harm to a deer.... I dont think the TSA cares so long as the harm I intend for deer will not take place in the air.
So... the amendments to the constitution are only extended (although I do not accept that hypothesis) when convenient?
We can bypass the 4th amendment to the constitution?
no. they are extended by the full force of the full constitution....however with certain limitations... those being the interpretation provided by the supreme court.
and in all cases it is possible for a person to surrender your constitutional rights. (think Miranda)
when purchasing a ticket to fly you agree to the parameters set forth. Those parameters include submitting to a search.
Again, constitutional rights protect you from the government. They do not protect you from a private company that has every right to apply specific restrictions as a term of use.
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The TSA has very high standards. The nature of their job requires that they be a bit intrusive. Security directives also govern their actions. A gross violation could result in dismissal or leave without pay. Each situation has to be looked at individually.
So are you a gubment worker that blogs on the internet while on the time clock?
Big government. Your BIG gubment agenda will solve no problems.
Government workers are number one in the use of employer computers for porn at work and surfing the web on the clock. In fact, Lands End and other catalog companies say government workers do shopping online from worjk more frequently than from home.
We have a rather open policy regarding use of the internet.
We do often have a lot of down time. It's feast or famine. Some days there aren't enough people to get the job done. Some days we're really slow. I've worked for Lexis Nexis and supported Congressional Information Systems in the private sector. It was the same.
Have you ever worked in aviation security and been given a security directive regarding a creditable threat, knowing that it's your job to protect the lives of every passenger passing through checkpoint?
What proceedures do you suggest?
What if the individuals aren't identified?
LOL
the use of sniffer equipment including dogs for one thing.
second would be a review of security proceedures in Israel. there are a number of things that can be done that are not nearly as invasive.
and no I have not ever worked in an airport. The fact that you have not been given the proper tools to do your job is no excuse for the government to continue to violate the constitutional rights of law abiding Americans.
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
The TSA has very high standards. The nature of their job requires that they be a bit intrusive. Security directives also govern their actions. A gross violation could result in dismissal or leave without pay. Each situation has to be looked at individually.
A bit intrusive? Maybe at one time, but now it's nudity via the scanners or touching places nobody has the right to touch.
Really? Tell me what goes into hiring a TSA agent. It's my job. I process TSA, FAMs, FBI, airline employees, local government employees, and contractors. I also issue electronic security access media, issue electronic credentials for electronic media, and I audit and track internal media use throughout the airport. Please tell me the proceedures when bringing an agent aboard, what we look for, and why? Stand up and deliver Coadie.
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