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Old 11-29-2010, 03:56 PM
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Re: The Role of a New Testament Prophet

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http://www.hanby.org/

This is THE Mark Hanby you are speaking about.
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The purpose of Mark Hanby Ministries is to teach, promote and impart foundational truth to the Body of Christ. This purpose is accomplished by providing resource materials that focus in three areas: Kingdom alignment, Spiritual order, and Ministry networking.

-Kingdom alignment refers to biblical truth applied to the community of faith, both corporately and individually.
-Spiritual order refers to theocratic church government and foundational understanding in spiritual authority.
-Ministry networking to the establishment of true apostolic relationships among leaders in the family of God.
I just bought a book written by him called THE MINISTRY OF THE SAINTS.
I read his "You Have Not Many Fathers" awhile back... The forward to his book was devoted to his dad, S.R. Hanby, a pentecostal pioneer. The book seemed to me to suggest a "school of the prophets" sort of thing where accountability goes directly to him if he has been your "father" in ministry.
This also includes financial responsibility (tithes & offererings). He is an extremely gifted man...
I don't know where he is in his walk today and use discretion in how I "hear" him. I'll give my reasons in personal messages.

I do believe that in his early ministry he was a "prophet" for the church in providing direction for new wineskins. I would consider his past ministry very similar to that of Kenneth Phillips. On the non op side, I'd say David Wilkerson.
Most NT prophets in organizations are "experts on prophecy". However, this thread is about defining a NT prophet.
Who are some NT prophets out there? Are there some on TV? Radio? Are they all Baptist? Pentecostal?
And then, what qualifies them - what distinguishes them - as being prophets as described in the New Testament?
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Old 11-29-2010, 08:47 PM
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Re: The Role of a New Testament Prophet

If there are evangelists, pastors and teachers in the Church today there must also be apostles and prophets because we still need perfecting and edification because we have not come into "the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ" so we are "no more children, tossed to and fro, and carrie about with every sleight of men..." Ephesians 4:11-14
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Old 11-30-2010, 12:22 PM
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If there are evangelists, pastors and teachers in the Church today there must also be apostles and prophets because we still need perfecting and edification because we have not come into "the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ" so we are "no more children, tossed to and fro, and carrie about with every sleight of men..." Ephesians 4:11-14
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Re: The Role of a New Testament Prophet

In 1981-82, a young man came to a church in Texas with about 400 members (a former UPC church), and he prophecied "I will remove you from this congregation, and they will not have to suffer you." On a Thurs evening service. Two day later, the pastor was caught dancing with a man in a homosexual bar, on Sunday the pastor of 19 years resigned, three days after the prophecy. Was the young man a prophet?
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Old 01-11-2011, 11:51 AM
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In 1981-82, a young man came to a church in Texas with about 400 members (a former UPC church), and he prophecied "I will remove you from this congregation, and they will not have to suffer you." On a Thurs evening service. Two day later, the pastor was caught dancing with a man in a homosexual bar, on Sunday the pastor of 19 years resigned, three days after the prophecy. Was the young man a prophet?
Who was he caught by?
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Re: The Role of a New Testament Prophet

The deacons in this church and their wives, they were out for the evening together and happened across the pastors pickup.
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In 1981-82, a young man came to a church in Texas with about 400 members (a former UPC church), and he prophecied "I will remove you from this congregation, and they will not have to suffer you." On a Thurs evening service. Two day later, the pastor was caught dancing with a man in a homosexual bar, on Sunday the pastor of 19 years resigned, three days after the prophecy. Was the young man a prophet?
Either that or he had good gaydar.
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Old 01-11-2011, 12:00 PM
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The same guy spent the next 3 months going to the fallen minister daily encouraging him to walk with God. The minister called the prophecy, "the mercy of God", and swore that it prevented what was shortly otherwise to take place. The young man did not know anything was amiss concerning the preacher, but gave the prophecy as a general open prophecy.
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In 1981-82, a young man came to a church in Texas with about 400 members (a former UPC church), and he prophecied "I will remove you from this congregation, and they will not have to suffer you." On a Thurs evening service. Two day later, the pastor was caught dancing with a man in a homosexual bar, on Sunday the pastor of 19 years resigned, three days after the prophecy. Was the young man a prophet?
He could be or else operating in the office, as one can operate in various capacities, as a pastor doing the work of an evangelist.
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I read his "You Have Not Many Fathers" awhile back... The forward to his book was devoted to his dad, S.R. Hanby, a pentecostal pioneer. The book seemed to me to suggest a "school of the prophets" sort of thing where accountability goes directly to him if he has been your "father" in ministry.
This also includes financial responsibility (tithes & offererings). He is an extremely gifted man...
I don't know where he is in his walk today and use discretion in how I "hear" him. I'll give my reasons in personal messages.

I do believe that in his early ministry he was a "prophet" for the church in providing direction for new wineskins. I would consider his past ministry very similar to that of Kenneth Phillips. On the non op side, I'd say David Wilkerson.
Most NT prophets in organizations are "experts on prophecy". However, this thread is about defining a NT prophet.
Who are some NT prophets out there? Are there some on TV? Radio? Are they all Baptist? Pentecostal?
And then, what qualifies them - what distinguishes them - as being prophets as described in the New Testament?
Like you, I do believe the Mark Hanby has been used of God greatly in former days, and I would have to say his tapes were directly used of God to help me through a very difficult time in my life, so he has a special place in my heart, and in my prayers.

The being said, I don't necessarly agree with several positions he appears to hold. However, I do not have to like the chef's favorite dish to appreciate this particular meal. We are sometimes slow to hear the voice of God when it comes from an unfamiliar speaker or a person that has fallen out of favor.

God removed the kingdom from Saul because Saul disobeyed God AND blamed the people. Eventually Saul would seak the witch of Endor.

David on the other hand was an adulter and a murder, and many of his finest moments in ministry occur AFTER he had been those things.

In our day, we would have left Saul in leadership, maybe moved him to another district, but David would have been history. Just a thought.
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