Biggest UPC church in the US???

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Really?

Almost everybody?

I really don't think so.

Or maybe you are right and I am giving the white Holy-Ghost filled people I know today who were alive back then too much credit.


What a nasty and terrible attittude!


If God doesn't change and if these white folks were filled with the Holy Ghost back then, how could something like that EVER have been in their hearts?

Another question, if any of them had died with that kind of attitdue, the attitude that only certain people count for Kingdom of God, could they have possible been saved?


Or is this kind of deception more acceptable to GOD than being baptized in the titles, "Father, Son and Holy Ghost...."


More and more, everyday, I am glad that I am at peace with my view of the Gospel.




IF God moved on these people who thought like that, used people who really believed like that, then I KNOW BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT GOD CAN USE SOMEONE LIKE ME-- ISSUES AND ALL!!!


I would be even more disgusted, if not for the pile of stinking poo that the Lord is bringing me out of!



You know, so much had already happened in America by the EARLY 70's.

To think that Holy Ghost filled people, "People Of the Name", "People In the Truth", "God's ONLY Remnant In These Last Days"-- the juxtoposition of that terrible attitude against their views only exposes the pride and arrogance---


My stomanch is twisting in knots and I'm really getting ready to throw up!!!

Makes me almost want to curse-- but I won't.

God forbid that I behave like their heart had once saw people like me.


But they have the truth and everyone else is lost.....

Jermyn, I wouldn't be surprised to know that churches are some of the most segregated places in our country. Sad isn't it?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Cindy

Jermyn, I wouldn't be surprised to know that churches are some of the most segregated places in our country. Sad isn't it?

It's best for me to make sure that my feet are firmly planted in the knowledge of my own poo BEFORE I further criticize any other Christians-- past or present.

If God can forgive them, He can forgive me too.

In a way, knowing about the consistent failures of others who apparently were used by God really does give me hope in believing that God has not grown weary of failures yet.

Not in the attitude of well I can keep sinning because, but in the attitude of gratefulness in realizing that today, God has given me another chance.



One day, God's investment in me will pay off for His Kingdom in a visible way, in this life, on this side of Glory.

[timlan2057]

Originally Posted by deadeye

Not very familiar with the Western District are you.
I would say that a majority of the members are minorities...primarily Hispanic....and no one that i know out there has a problem with it.
My wife and I are both from WD ...I am (mostly) Anglo...she is Hispanic....I was preaching in a church I grew up in a couple of weeks ago...the LARGE majority were Hispanic...preached for a family member out there...the majority was Hispanic....the WD has absolutely no problem with minorities....and except for a very few throwbacks, this holds true for the UPC in general.

Yes, I'm familiar enough with the Western District to know that Hispanics attend churches out there.

And yes, thanks for stating the obvious--the UPC is probably better about race relations than it was forty years ago.

I might take issue with your VERY FEW throwbacks though. I think that under-estimates.

AND--race AND class play a part. Don't tell me that those folks that look "illegal" and talk "illegal" aren't further ostracized than the "classy" third and fourth generation Hispanics.

I think that was the gist of the article cited.