Worship Casualties: Who speaks for the injured?

[Fiyahstarter]

Originally Posted by notofworks

and there's no such thing as "slain in the spirit."

wrong!

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by notofworks

It's been many years since I've been in a Pentecostal-shoutdown-nutso-self-absorbed-look-at-me-fest, but the next time I am, and some married guy shouts, I'm gonna have a laughing fit and roll down the aisle. Bad thing is, though, they'll think I'm really spiritual.

[Fiyahstarter]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Good stuff, as always, MissB.

I know that what has happened to me in the past is real, so no one arguing can change that. Experience always wins out over arguments.

I remember one time Eddie started to pray for two women (sisters) who were standing together at the altar. They both had their eyes closed, and as he reached toward them, they both came up off their feet and landed flat on their backs with no one to catch them. It was the weirdest thing - Eddie never even touched them and they didn't see him. AND---they were not hurt in the least. Those kinds of things I know are God.

I can vouch -- had a similar experience. Undeniable POWER OF GOD.

You tread where you aught-n hadda, NOW.

Seriously, dude, you know not of what you speak.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by notofworks

The reality is, having someone, basically, simulate fainting, is very dangerous. And to blame that on God is completely irresponsible. And the fundamental truth is, there is nothing remotely CLOSE to this happening in the bible.

Yet, it's a part of nearly every pentecostal circle, in fact, I don't know of a pentecostal church that would speak out against it.

NOW, we preach against this type of nonsense, and don't even have alter calls at my church because folks from other pentecostal churches tend to want to get into the unbiblical alter practices prevelant in some pentecostal churches.

My pastor tells a story of s big "old time" pentecostal service they had before I got there, and how the guest preacher pronounced the Holy Ghost on a kid (teenager) after much labourous prayer and some small babble. My Pastor rebuked the whole practice in front of everyone and told the young man, He didn't receive the Holy Ghost, and that when He did He wouldn't need someone else to tell everyone, He would know it.

Needless to say, alot of those type pentecostals aren't beating our door down to have services together.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Once upon a time I was a minister in a church. We had a special prayer time for people to come to the front and get prayed for. I prayed for several people and none fell out. I did pray for one lady and I had barely even touched her head and she fell like a ton of bricks to the ground. I am not certain if she had expected someone to catch her or not. When she hit the ground she wasn't speaking in tongues as far as I can tell. I think she knocked herself out, but with in a few minutes she was up and in her seat again and ready for the rest of church.

Someone on this forum or some other forum told about a woman who came for prayer. As soon as hands were placed on her she hit the floor. She got partially up and said something like, "Oh, I forgot to tell you that I go down easy." And then she fell back to the floor. (in the Spirit, I assume)

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Esther

You speak as though you are the expert on the case and none other. But I hate to burst your bubble, you are not. Many will disagree with you. And to add adsurity (sp) to compare being slain to all the other rediculous things is nonesense.

But as to scripture to support someone being slain, I believe there are.

Mat 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.

Whoa, that is some real shaky hermenutics.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Whoa, that is some real shaky hermenutics.

Welcome to my team, Jason!!! Glad to have you! Dang it, I always get to do this by myself, though!

Yes, she has VERY shaky hermeneutics.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Fiyahstarter

wrong!

Tremendously stated position!

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Fiyahstarter

I can vouch -- had a similar experience. Undeniable POWER OF GOD.

You tread where you aught-n hadda, NOW.

Seriously, dude, you know not of what you speak.

I love treading into truth. I am absolutely AMAZED by people who claim to embrace the bible, who rave about their knowledge of "The Word" and claim to "Have the truth", but yet, when their habits are found to be unfounded in the bible, or worse yet, contradict biblical principles, suddenly it's, "Oh, but I had an experience."

Experience does not rise to the level of biblical authority. Sorry.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by notofworks

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Experience does not rise to the level of biblical authority. Sorry.

AMEN!!