Taking the Bible Seriously But Not Literally - Page 8

Digging4Truth · #71 02-09-2010, 10:43 AM

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Right... And if I find 1 that isn't on that "grid" what does that mean? Not to mention why use that kind of map instead of the rectangle one we are more familar with...

Besides when I look closely at that map, half of those "mehaliths" are somehow in the middle of the ocean... hmmmmmmmmm

Some are islands (Easter Island for instance), and some are underwater structures.

jfrog · #72 02-09-2010, 10:48 AM

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Some are islands (Easter Island for instance), and some are underwater structures.

underwater structures that men built? hmmmmmm.....

Digging4Truth · #73 02-09-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

underwater structures that men built? hmmmmmm.....

I doubt they were built underwater. They are just underwater now.

pelathais · #74 02-09-2010, 01:24 PM

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Have you never heard of the temple of Baalbek? The Trilithon? The Hadjar el Gouble (Stone of the South)

Below you will find a picture of Hadjar el Gouble (the stone of the south) entitled megalith. It is perfectly hewn (as is the trilithon). This particular stone weighs in excess of 1000 metric tons and is still in the quarry location about 1/2 mile from the actual temple of Baalbek.

If it's "still in the quarry" then it doesn't qualify as the requested example. It's still in the quarry because NOBODY could move it in antiquity. "Oops!" went the Temple's project manager.

I've attached a picture of a machine that can lift itself and move around - it weighs 45x's as much as that stone. Empty.

from http://www.swapmeetdave.com/Humor/Workshop/Trencher.htm

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

You will also find a picture of what is known as the trilithon. The 3 stones were brought from the same quarry 1/2 mile away and they each weigh in excess of 800 tons each.

In each picture there are people located in the picture for size reference.

The machine above could pick them each up at the same time and transport them along its 750 foot conveyer belt in a matter of seconds.

None of these "rocks" presents a real engineering challenge for today.

pelathais · #75 02-09-2010, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

I doubt they were built underwater. They are just underwater now.

Give me a site.

... okay ... I googled the picture:

http://www.vortexmaps.com/megalith.php

1. Giza, the Great Pyramid
3. Tyumen oil field, USSR
4. Lake Baikal, USSR, many unique plants and animals 9. Hudson Bay, present location of north magnetic pole
... etc.

"Man made" oil field at a depth of several kilometers? Lake Baikal was "man made?" Hudson Bay and the magnetic north pole is "man made?"

Besides, the current magnet pole is several hundred miles north of Hudson Bay. Hudson Bay isn't even close. Dunno Bro.

Timmy · #76 02-09-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother David

If it's "still in the quarry" then it doesn't qualify as the requested example. It's still in the quarry because NOBODY could move it in antiquity. "Oops!" went the Temple's project manager.

I've attached a picture of a machine that can lift itself and move around - it weighs 45x's as much as that stone. Empty.

from http://www.swapmeetdave.com/Humor/Workshop/Trencher.htm

The machine above could pick them each up at the same time and transport them along its 750 foot conveyer belt in a matter of seconds.

None of these "rocks" presents a real engineering challenge for today.

I want one!

Digging4Truth · #77 02-09-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother David

If it's "still in the quarry" then it doesn't qualify as the requested example. It's still in the quarry because NOBODY could move it in antiquity. "Oops!" went the Temple's project manager.

I'm glad you know why the stone is still there. It is thought that the stone that is still at the quarry was cut after the trilithon. But... since you know... you go.

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Originally Posted by Brother David

I've attached a picture of a machine that can lift itself and move around - it weighs 45x's as much as that stone. Empty.

from http://www.swapmeetdave.com/Humor/Workshop/Trencher.htm

The machine above could pick them each up at the same time and transport them along its 750 foot conveyer belt in a matter of seconds.

None of these "rocks" presents a real engineering challenge for today.

1. 38 times... not 45. Just sayin'
2. That machine could certainly destroy the stones but a trencher does not a safe & intact move make.
3. This is still in keeping with what I said. IF we can carve, move & place these stones today it would require the very best we have to offer in technology.

pelathais · #78 02-09-2010, 02:30 PM

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I'm glad you know why the stone is still there. It is thought that the stone that is still at the quarry was cut after the trilithon. But... since you know... you go.

Already been, but thanks. There are a lot of problems with megalithic stones that develop along their way toward immortality. Perhaps the most famous is attached in the pic below: an obelisk that was found to be cracked and abandoned in the Aswan, Egypt, quarry thousands of years ago.

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1. 38 times... not 45. Just sayin'

Your stone was an estimated 1,000 tons and this machine is 45,500 tons.

45,500/1,000 = 45.5

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2. That machine could certainly destroy the stones but a trencher does not a safe & intact move make.
3. This is still in keeping with what I said. IF we can carve, move & place these stones today it would require the very best we have to offer in technology.

What you said was,

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There are megalithic stones which man still does not have the technology to move.

I asked for an example. None has been given, but no big deal. I knew that there were none.

I then simply pulled up the first thing that came to mind to answer your "have you ever heard of..." question.

Like I said before, there has to be some sort of reasonable motivation to get some one to move a big piece of stone around. Without the motivation... who cares where the rock sits?

One example near to my home is a big piece of marble weighing a mere 79 tons. The guy who owns the quarry wants to give it away for free! He said he'll even pay for the transport to the East Coast - out of his own pocket and a local car dealer.

But, he can't get anyone to take him up on the deal. So the 79 tons of marble just sits here in Colorado until somebody gets up the motivation to say, "Go ahead, send it along..."

http://www.stonebusiness.us/index.ph...=215&Itemid=66

Digging4Truth · #79 02-09-2010, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother David

Your stone was an estimated 1,000 tons and this machine is 45,500 tons.

45,500/1,000 = 45.5

OVER 1000 METRIC Tons. There's a difference. It is estimated at 1200 tons.

What you said was,

And then I said..
I'm saying that, in the year 2010, if we even have the ability to carve, move & place these stones it would require the very best of what we have to offer in the technologies of these fields.

I asked for an example. None has been given, but no big deal. I knew that there were none.

I'm not going to argue your point because there is room for you to be correct. You have demonstrated big heavy machines with impressive ability to destroy things but there is no clear cut evidence that we could move this stone or the three 800 ton stones that are at Baalbek and put them in position without harm. So there is room that my initial statement is right as well.

But we have different measurements on what is necessary to call another persons thought wrong and impossible and that is the pivotal point in this discussion.