Massachusetts Election Day

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Light

My point has nothing to do with any politician. I am responding to those that called me a baby killer for voting for Obama. They are now thanking God for an abortionist believer. Kind of hypocritical don't you think?

I think Scott stood for both religious and secular choices. Isn't that what you wanted? He certainly tried to write in religious exemptions. Obama has a full and more supportive abortion record than Scott.

You can't rule out politics for Christians to weigh in on. It IS about politics. It involves politics.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Light

Can't you get it, it's not about the politician. The stance of many on this board before today was if you vote for someone that is pro choice you are a baby killer. If you vote for a democrat you support abortion. All of a sudden today it's okey dokey to vote for a pro choice politician,WHY, because he will do something you want or has the title REPUBLICAN.

I get it. What I don't get are the blanket mischaracterizations of many who don't call people who vote for Dems baby killers. It smacks of sore-loserism.

In a perfect world everyone I vote for agrees with everything I want. If the best I can get is a coalition of fiscal conservatives with fiscal and social cons to stop this very very dangerous experiment with our way of life, I will take it over just about anything I've seen the Democrats roll out. I have voted for our Democrat governor b/c he is a conservative Dem. I voted for a Dem mayor in the town I used to live in for the same reasons.

Since Republicans more often than not are cons versus the Dem party, I tend to vote for the GOP. I DO NOT vote a straight party line ballot. I do vote a straight conservative ballot. If the candidates are not as conservative as I would like, I will vote for the most conservative/less liberal one. If both candidates are liberal I wont vote, although I have never lived in a part of the coutry where that has taken place.

The GOP is dominated by conservatives. You can't be a presidential candidate and be pro abortion. Its been that way since Roe v. Wade. You have to be a pro abortion candidate to be on the Dem ticket. And that's just one issue. There's gun rights, tax policy, military/national defense, traditional marriage, smaller government, conservative fiscal policies, school choice, and a plethora of other issues that persuade me to lean GOP.

The values of the movers and the shakers in the Dem party are liberally bent, therefore I have always voted against them nationally. In the GOP primaries I always vote for the most conservative candidate. I have never been a supporter of the eventual nominee in the primaries except for Reagan in 84. I have Buchanan, Keys and Kasich on my resume of GOP hopefuls in primaries. Once the deal was closed and the choice was a lesser conservative, but certainly much more conservative than the Dem candidate, I have voted for the eventual GOP nominee.

Look at the coalitions in the Democrat Party vs the GOP and its not difficult to understand the logic behind voting for a Republican over a Democrat in a vast majority of the cases. That is, if you are a conservative.

I remain consistent, unless consistency is defined as voting for a candidate who only agrees with me 100% of the time.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I knew it was her that posted it! LOL! Renda, PM incoming, unless I change my mind before I hit submit.

[ForeverBlessed]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

The sticky thing about the abortion law is that you are dealing with women who have no strong religious observation. You cannot make them moral. So, the politician has a dilemma and it's not always about political favor. It's about forcing someone's freedom.

Some have posted that we need to live in a secular world and not involve religion. Well, what do they say about this issue on that stance?

I have to agree. I am not for abortion myself of course as a Christian... but am not opposed to it remaining legal because of personal freedom. I can't make someone be moral as you stated here. Neither do I feel the need to impose my moral or Christian beliefs on others... God doesn't do that, why should I?

I personally vote conservative on abortion because I feel that it should be greatly restricted and hate the fact abortion is being used as birth control. I would vote for someone pro life because I know they will balance the everything goes liberals. I'm absolutely against govt paying for it.

I vote conservative and have campaigned for conservatives because I am fiscally conservative and value freedom... freedom from government in my personal life.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Just made your day!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by ForeverBlessed

I have to agree. I am not for abortion myself of course as a Christian... but am not opposed to it remaining legal because of personal freedom. I can't make someone be moral as you stated here. Neither do I feel the need to impose my moral or Christian beliefs on others... God doesn't do that, why should I?

I personally vote conservative on abortion because I feel that it should be greatly restricted and hate the fact abortion is being used as birth control. I would vote for someone pro life because I know they will balance the everything goes liberals. I'm absolutely against govt paying for it.

I vote conservative and have campaigned for conservatives because I am fiscally conservative and value freedom... freedom from government in my personal life.

Good post! I agree! Scott Brown is not totally liberal on the subject of abortion.

[Light]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

I get it. What I don't get are the blanket mischaracterizations of many who don't call people who vote for Dems baby killers. It smacks of sore-loserism.

In a perfect world everyone I vote for agrees with everything I want. If the best I can get is a coalition of fiscal conservatives with fiscal and social cons to stop this very very dangerous experiment with our way of life, I will take it over just about anything I've seen the Democrats roll out. I have voted for our Democrat governor b/c he is a conservative Dem. I voted for a Dem mayor in the town I used to live in for the same reasons.

Since Republicans more often than not are cons versus the Dem party, I tend to vote for the GOP. I DO NOT vote a straight party line ballot. I do vote a straight conservative ballot. If the candidates are not as conservative as I would like, I will vote for the most conservative/less liberal one. If both candidates are liberal I wont vote, although I have never lived in a part of the coutry where that has taken place.

The GOP is dominated by conservatives. You can't be a presidential candidate and be pro abortion. Its been that way since Roe v. Wade. You have to be a pro abortion candidate to be on the Dem ticket. And that's just one issue. There's gun rights, tax policy, military/national defense, traditional marriage, smaller government, conservative fiscal policies, school choice, and a plethora of other issues that persuade me to lean GOP.

The values of the movers and the shakers in the Dem party are liberally bent, therefore I have always voted against them nationally. In the GOP primaries I always vote for the most conservative candidate. I have never been a supporter of the eventual nominee in the primaries except for Reagan in 84. I have Buchanan, Keys and Kasich on my resume of GOP hopefuls in primaries. Once the deal was closed and the choice was a lesser conservative, but certainly much more conservative than the Dem candidate, I have voted for the eventual GOP nominee.

Look at the coalitions in the Democrat Party vs the GOP and its not difficult to understand the logic behind voting for a Republican over a Democrat in a vast majority of the cases. That is, if you are a conservative.

I remain consistent, unless consistency is defined as voting for a candidate who only agrees with me 100% of the time.

I am not accusing you personally but I do have a question.

Where were you and the others who today are defending the right for a christian to vote for a pro choice person??? When 3 or 4 preachers and a few ladies on this board were condemning me saying I could not be a christian because I supported Obama a man that is pro choice and for gay rights?

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Light

I am not accusing you personally but I do have a question.

Where were you and the others who today are defending the right for a christian to vote for a pro choice person??? When 3 or 4 preachers and a few ladies on this board were condemning me saying I could not be a christian because I supported Obama a man that is pro choice and for gay rights?

I'm not on here that often. I was probably doing something productive.

My dad is a yellow-dog Democrat. He's also the finest Christian I know. He is a prayer warrior, fasts every Wednesday, a soul winner, a giver and has a reputation that is impeccable. He simply votes as a Depression Era, FDR southern Democrat. He was a phone man for 45 years and a union man for 25 years. He votes on the premise that Democrats represent the "little guy" like him and the GOP is all about the wealthy. Its an outdated paradigm imo, but he's 75 and I won't change him. If he doesn't go to heaven simply b/c he votes Democrat, I don't have a rat's chance to make it, b/c I fall far short of the man of God that he is. He doesn't like abortion or gay rights. Its all economics to him. I told him over Christmas that he would be perfect if he wasn't a Democrat. He had to at least have one flaw. His response? "If I weren't a Democrat, I'd be ashamed".

So I'm sorry you were called a babykiller some time ago. That's not a fair characterization. And it is hypocritical for people who have said such to call you so and then celebrate the election of Scott Brown.

[Light]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

I'm not on here that often. I was probably doing something productive.

My dad is a yellow-dog Democrat. He's also the finest Christian I know. He is a prayer warrior, fasts every Wednesday, a soul winner, a giver and has a reputation that is impeccable. He simply votes as a Depression Era, FDR southern Democrat. He was a phone man for 45 years and a union man for 25 years. He votes on the premise that Democrats represent the "little guy" like him and the GOP is all about the wealthy. Its an outdated paradigm imo, but he's 75 and I won't change him. If he doesn't go to heaven simply b/c he votes Democrat, I don't have a rat's chance to make it, b/c I fall far short of the man of God that he is. He doesn't like abortion or gay rights. Its all economics to him. I told him over Christmas that he would be perfect if he wasn't a Democrat. He had to at least have one flaw. His response? "If I weren't a Democrat, I'd be ashamed".

So I'm sorry you were called a babykiller some time ago. That's not a fair characterization. And it is hypocritical for people who have said such to call you so and then celebrate the election of Scott Brown.

Thank you. You dad is my kind of man. I'm a yellow dog also.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Light

My point has nothing to do with any politician. I am responding to those that called me a baby killer for voting for Obama. They are now thanking God for an abortionist believer. Kind of hypocritical don't you think?

Show me where I or anyone else called YOU a baby killer!