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Old 11-19-2009, 10:50 AM
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Re: Affirmative Action 4 Sarah!

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When exactly did you change your opinion on her?

Because as far back as early September 2008 you said...



Your post from September

I clearly remember a thread on AFF that talked about her being a possibility-- maybe back in April or May.

I stated that I was very interested in her and I spoke of her in positive terms.
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Ronald Reagans kids were a trianwreck.

Nobody said he needed to get things right at home before he could be president.

This line of arguement is sexists, bigoted and hypocritical....

Like I said, anyone wanting to take shots at her for her political flubs and her misteps with media, have at it. It is fair game. Even if I dont agree with a particular attack along those lines, it is fair game.

but when you bring in family and sexist stuff like the News week cover this week, it is duplicitous at best.


Reagan's children were not children, not even 18 year olds, when he was elected President.

We're talking apples and oranges here.
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The above coming from someone who has sufferd from bigotry seems out of place. No man has ever been told to go raise his family.

Barak Obama has children of the same age as Sarah Palin. Should he abdicate to raise his family?

Sarah is married and her husband is an equal partner in raising their kids. Why does Sarah need to be held to a different standard than Barak?
He didn't use his children as props like Sarah I can see Russia from my front door did. Low and behold she is using her down syndrome child as a prop again today on her so- called book tour.
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Re: Affirmative Action 4 Sarah!

She is addicted to the spotlight, to attention-- whether it's bad or good.


She's a loser and unelectable.
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I'm sure it's already been discussed, But, since she is just an unknown woman from Alaska , why is everyone so worried about her??


If she breathes someone is watching and takes notes.

There are many that would be willing to pay for this much attention.

The big question....Why is she seen as a threat?

Good grief man she is no threat at all, just another ding bat. I hope and pray Sarah is the republicans choice for President in 2012. I pray please God let her be their choice. It will guarantee a land slide for Obama.
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Good grief man she is no threat at all, just another ding bat. I hope and pray Sarah is the republicans choice for President in 2012. I pray please God let her be their choice. It will guarantee a land slide for Obama.
You want a landslide for Obama ... and you're calling SP a dingbat?
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:26 AM
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I'm sure it's already been discussed, But, since she is just an unknown woman from Alaska , why is everyone so worried about her??


If she breathes someone is watching and takes notes.

There are many that would be willing to pay for this much attention.

The big question....Why is she seen as a threat?
I think the answers to this are quite simple actually.

1. She is a woman who is a conservative. The liberal line is that women vote for liberals because liberals fight for women’s rights. They know the danger of losing the female vote. If women vote for republicans in a 50/50 split, no democrat can be elected president. This is a simple statistical fact.
2. She is a woman who is a conservative. In addition to the previous point, as a woman, she gets huge support from conservative men. Liberals and the Democratic Party have done a careful job of painting the Republican Party as the party of rich white men who are sexist bigots. Heavy support by men explode the myth democrats have worked so carefully at building over the last 40 years.
3. She elicits a visceral response from those who agree with her on the issues. One of the most important factors in an election is determining which side is motivated. You saw this play out in the last election. The Democrats were highly motivated and they were able to get people to vote that had never voted before. There was a visceral response to Obama. Palin has that thing (what ever it is) that causes people to just love her. She draws huge crowds. Democrats know that if they cannot destroy her, she presents a kind of problem they can’t defend against. If she can overcome the objections she has a huge advantage over the entire field in this area.

You have to understand the mindset of the Democratic Party. There are 3 things that matter in politics
1. Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals: The primary rule here is to never attack the institution. Instead, you pick individuals who represent the institution and destroy them. By doing that, you smear the institution.
2. Machiavelli’s The Prince: This book has been the standard of international politics for 400 years. The bottom line here is that the end justifies the means. Where Democrats are concerned, Truth is irrelevant. Their cause is sacrosanct. Thus they are justified in any action so long as they get what they want. Thus the reason Bill Clinton was allowed to sexually harass women without being taken to task by NOW and other feminist organizations. He was one of them. He would get the laws passed that they liked.
3. Sun Tzu’s The Art of War. Sun Tzu was a 6th century Chinese general. This book makes one over arching point. Total Annihilation. It is important to understand that to democrats, they realize that you cannot have a “moral victory” that leaves your opponent still capable of coming back. You defeat utterly. You don’t stop until the enemy is incapable of regrouping and coming at you again. Defeat the enemy and defeat them utterly.

I would also point out that Rules for Radicals also has one other rule that applies to Sarah Palin. Make your opponent live up to their own standard. No one can do it. This is why liberals attack her family. They first make the case that the conservatives are “for family values”. Then they attack her family because there is vulnerability there.


Some will charge that conservatives play by these same rules. I would argue that to their detriment they do not. I would also argue that Conservatives should play by these rules, and as long as they don’t, they will face defeat.
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He didn't use his children as props like Sarah I can see Russia from my front door did. Low and behold she is using her down syndrome child as a prop again today on her so- called book tour.
two points, Barak Obama's girls were on the stage with him and the media commented on how cute they were.

Sarah did nothing more. regardless, you do not ever use a politicians children against them. period. end of discussion. If I see it used against Obama I will certainly speak out. You simply dont do that.

Second, "I can see Russia from my front door" was a saturday night skit.
She did however, say that she had foreign policy experience because russia was close.... which is a ligitimate argument to use against her.... but she
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You want a landslide for Obama ... and you're calling SP a dingbat?
underrated line!


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Reagan's children were not children, not even 18 year olds, when he was elected President.

We're talking apples and oranges here.
No Jermyn we are not. We are talking about a sexist double standard that you are arguing for.

Period.

you dont attack the kids. you dont attack the parent via the kids.


Shame on you.
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