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08-18-2009, 05:03 PM
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Re: Cop tases Mom While Kids Watch
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i cant believe anyone can defend this woman. she didnt obey any orders she was given when they were given. she was told "get in the car". she didnt, she was told "get out of the car" she didnt. they were lawful orders it doesnt matter ou think or she thinks,when someone with a badge says do it,then do it. discuss it later with his boss. what the man says do! end of problem,he is the authority,same as a parent or pastor. who by the way could probably benefit from having a taser at their disposal JUST KIDDING on the last part !
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What LAW was broken when she didn't back in the car?
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08-18-2009, 08:14 PM
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Re: Cop tases Mom While Kids Watch
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What LAW was broken when she didn't back in the car?
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when a police officer tells you to do something., its is a lawful order period .you are then guilty of failing to follow a lawful order . resisting arrest comes soon after as was proven. doesnt matter whether you agree with his order or not. he might be doing it different that the next officer, but it doesnt matter. follow the last order given ala military
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08-18-2009, 08:18 PM
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Re: Cop tases Mom While Kids Watch
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when a police officer tells you to do something., its is a lawful order period .you are then guilty of failing to follow a lawful order . resisting arrest comes soon after as was proven. doesnt matter whether you agree with his order or not. he might be doing it different that the next officer, but it doesnt matter. follow the last order given ala military
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yeah, I checked with a cop tonight and stated by her not getting back in the car she broke the law. he mention obstruction something or other. He said her in NC you can lawful taze someone for resisting arrest as she did.
I though I read in the article that in her state the person has to be threat before using tazer, so that might be an issue.
My first impression of video was true, she was wrong.
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08-18-2009, 09:47 PM
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Re: Cop tases Mom While Kids Watch
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yeah, I checked with a cop tonight and stated by her not getting back in the car she broke the law. he mention obstruction something or other. He said her in NC you can lawful taze someone for resisting arrest as she did.
I though I read in the article that in her state the person has to be threat before using tazer, so that might be an issue.
My first impression of video was true, was wrong.
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thing of it is, i dont think she even was tazed or at least if she was, it must have been wuss of a tazer. she didnt go rigid and hit the ground or anything. i have seen many tase jobs. this looks nothing like any i have seen. i still think she is a drama queen.
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08-18-2009, 10:39 PM
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Re: Cop tases Mom While Kids Watch
I believe it is against the law to exit the car before an officer asks you to in MO.
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08-19-2009, 09:15 AM
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Re: Cop tases Mom While Kids Watch
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when a police officer tells you to do something., its is a lawful order period .you are then guilty of failing to follow a lawful order . resisting arrest comes soon after as was proven. doesnt matter whether you agree with his order or not. he might be doing it different that the next officer, but it doesnt matter. follow the last order given ala military
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So they are a law unto themselves and the only limits to their authority is their vocabulary.
Good grief.
How this country is slipping. We have are well prepared to accept a police state because we now accept that it is law just because he said it.
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08-19-2009, 10:05 AM
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Re: Cop tases Mom While Kids Watch
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So they are a law unto themselves and the only limits to their authority is their vocabulary.
Good grief.
How this country is slipping. We have are well prepared to accept a police state because we now accept that it is law just because he said it.
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It's not like he just walked up to her giving commands. Once a cop tells you that your under arrest then to try to get back in the car is resisting. he tried to pull her out and she fought back by refusing. This is where she broke the law according to the cop i spoke to last night. Now according to the article, if I remembe right, the person has to be a threat to get tased according to their law. Here in NC they can tase for refusing to obey after being told your under arrest.
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08-19-2009, 11:35 AM
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Re: Cop tases Mom While Kids Watch
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thing of it is, i dont think she even was tazed or at least if she was, it must have been wuss of a tazer. she didnt go rigid and hit the ground or anything. i have seen many tase jobs. this looks nothing like any i have seen. i still think she is a drama queen.
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I thought the same thing. Unless her coat was really taking the shock.
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08-19-2009, 11:40 AM
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Re: Cop tases Mom While Kids Watch
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It's not like he just walked up to her giving commands. Once a cop tells you that your under arrest then to try to get back in the car is resisting. he tried to pull her out and she fought back by refusing. This is where she broke the law according to the cop i spoke to last night. Now according to the article, if I remembe right, the person has to be a threat to get tased according to their law. Here in NC they can tase for refusing to obey after being told your under arrest.
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What was she under arrest for?
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08-19-2009, 11:59 AM
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Re: Cop tases Mom While Kids Watch
D4T,
I DO think the officer overreacted. He felt threatened, he was caught off guard, and reacted as if it were a major threat to his person, when in fact it was just some over-wrought woman yelling at him. However, I do not feel she behaved appropriately, either.
I don't think he was out of line to restrain her, since she wasn't following his instructions. I do believe you have to cooperate with the police, and follow their instructions, else they can take defensive action. You may be able to protest that action later, but in the interim, they're given the benefit of the doubt. How could they keep the peace otherwise?
Police officers HAVE to have some inherent authority, and expect to have their instructions followed, or they would not be able to do their jobs. If one of MY children were to yell at a police officer and fail to obey his instructions, I would most CERTAINLY rake them over the coals about it. That is just stupid behavior. Even scripture tells us we're to obey the government authorities. And quite frankly, the idea that police are out to get us, rather than insuring public safety and protecting citizens is rather tiresome. I just don't believe that. We teach our kids that police, firemen and others are there for our protection, and that we are to respect them, and let them do their jobs.
You tell us, D4T--what authority do police have, and at what point is it reasonable for them to arrest, restrain or detain someone?
Anyway, the police officer did NOT tase the woman for getting out of her car. He tased her because he asked her to get back in her vehicle, she refused, and he told her she was under arrest. At that point she DID try to get back in her vehicle, which is technically evading arrest, and he tased her.
I'm not convinced that he was out of line entirely, although I agree he used excessive force, and the whole incident was rather silly. IMO, BOTH of them came off looking rather foolish. She looked silly for acting like a spoiled brat, and he looked like a bully, tasing a woman who was just standing there fussing at him.
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