Was it where he said he did not want bureaucracy making medical decisions? Or was it where he talked about the doctors and patients making the decisions? Or was it where he said that end of life decisions were ultimately between physicians and patients?
All that video showed is that the "death panels" would be between the physician and the patient.
Twisp you must be under the spell of Obama. Newsflash! He LIES!
He said very recently that he never said he was for a one-payer system, yet he is on tape when stomping for the presidency saying the opposite that he is for the one-payer system.
He even admitted that it would take some time before everybody would be brought on the system. Giving you a false hope that you can choose what you want.
Another of him many lies.
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Twisp your falling for the non-sense. He said very clearly that at some point "we" have to tell the old person to take the painkiller instead of surgery.
He wraps all this around talk of Dr./Patient mumbo jumbo but he is clearly stating that the government is going to be involved.
and that bill clearly indicates such. period.
He did not clearly say that. If he had clearly said it, we would see him saying it on the video.
In context, he said that if the surgery is not going to work, then they would present that option to the patient. That is what he said. You can read into that all you want, but it does not change what he said. If you watched the unedited video below the edited one, he said at least two times that the decision would be between the physician and patient. He even said he did not want the government to be involved in the medical decision.
Really, he could not have said any more clearly that it would be the patient's decision. You have really got to hate the man to read anything into "I don't want bureaucracies making those decisions".
It is evident that you do not want to be like them. It is also obvious that you want to remain inferior to them.
If this is being inferior to them....then I'm ok with that. I think that's exactly what our founding fathers would like....inferior....but free!! I take it over superior but socialistic.
JMHO...but I think most 1st generation Americans do not come here because they think this to be an inferior place. Why would they? I don't think they are forced to come and live here....no....I actually think many of them do whatever they can to come and stay in this great country...because they like it...even though it is so inferior.
This is another example of somewhat well intentioned people who don't do research on things for themselves letting people like goofy Sarah Palin get them all worked up over nothing. Good Christian people get caught up in spreading the lies and mistruths so a politician can play a political game and in the process people are driven to fear and illogical conclusions.
Sarah Palin never believed there were any "death panels". She simply brought up it up to keep her spotlight loving name in public view, never mind, she lied to do so.
Georgia Republican Senator Johnny Isakson told the Washington Post and I quote, "How someone could take an end of life directive or a living will as that is nuts,” he said. “You’re putting the authority in the individual rather than the government. I don’t know how that got so mixed up.” All the provision in the bill does is allow for Doctors to be paid for talking to families about "living wills, choosing a health care proxy or learning about hospice care". Those are all things that everyone already discusses, but the measure simply pays a doctor for his time to talk with the family about it during a session.
In addition the measure actually BLOCKS funding for counseling that discusses suicide or physician assisted suicide as an option for treatment. Surely everyone understands what the phrase "blocks funding" means right?
Those are the facts for those who actually want them and aren't just trying to kill healtcare reform so their side can "win".
What's amazing to me is that so many Republicans do their best to defeat healthcare reform when a Democrat is in office and wants to address the issue. They are great at playing defense. They have no offense however. The Republican party hasn't done a blessed thing to help fix the acknowledged health care problem in this country even though they've controlled the White House and both houses of Congress several times over the last 29 years.
The Republican party apparently doesn't have any solutions to help fix health care. Just saying, "No", to everything a Democratic administration proposes doesn't help solve the problem. They refused to lead so the Democrats are in the process of doing so.
Those are the facts for those who have half a brain and want to know the truth.
Where did you find where she said she lied about that?
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Where did you find where she said she lied about that?
She's never admitted to it.
I'm assuming that she knows how to read and it's clear for anyone who can read that there is absolutely no possibility of "death panels" under this legislation.
That's either a total fabrication of her imagination or a lie used to get her name in the press because of it's outlandishness.
No one in their right mind can read that legislation and come up with "death panels".
I'm in step with the Republican from Georgia on this. "How someone could take an end of life directive or a living will as that is nuts,”
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Twisp you must be under the spell of Obama. Newsflash! He LIES!
He said very recently that he never said he was for a one-payer system, yet he is on tape when stomping for the presidency saying the opposite that he is for the one-payer system.
He even admitted that it would take some time before everybody would be brought on the system. Giving you a false hope that you can choose what you want.
Twisp you must be under the spell of Obama. Newsflash! He LIES!
He said very recently that he never said he was for a one-payer system, yet he is on tape when stomping for the presidency saying the opposite that he is for the one-payer system.
He even admitted that it would take some time before everybody would be brought on the system. Giving you a false hope that you can choose what you want.
Another of him many lies.
I posted the video of him wanting single payeor.
The new strategy for these "town hall meetings " is "kneecap and trade"
SEIU will knee cap the dissidents
Twisp you must be under the spell of Obama. Newsflash! He LIES!
He said very recently that he never said he was for a one-payer system, yet he is on tape when stomping for the presidency saying the opposite that he is for the one-payer system.
He even admitted that it would take some time before everybody would be brought on the system. Giving you a false hope that you can choose what you want.
Another of him many lies.
Esther...i've yet to meet a politician who doesn't. this is like saying a dog barks. a politicians first responsibility is to make sure they have a next term...and to do that they promise the sky.
I do believe President Obama honestly believes he can do these things...but I also believe he is for a bigger, more involved government...and history shows that never works well with free-minded people.
Hopefully there are enough still left....who vote.
Because it is a lie. They will only let you keep it for about 5 years and then you will be forced to the state mandated insurance.
5 years max and maybe. The total issue is the Koolaid drinkers sleep in class and missed what he says.
Obama wanted it before recess. Didn't want to have people read the bill.
Now Christmas
He sees it as maybe he will have to get a compromised bill signed and then slowly remove private carriers over time.
He lied about which hospital he was born in and will keep lying about the care he promises from hospitals.
QUEENS???
Full quote from Obama in 2003:
“I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program.” (applause) “I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its Gross National Product on health care cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that’s what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. And that’s what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House.”
Obama speaking to the Illinois AFL-CIO, June 30, 2003.
this is like saying a dog barks. a politicians first responsibility is to make sure they have a next term...and to do that they promise the sky. 
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