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Old 08-19-2008, 03:45 PM
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Now that you have bought the lie that the media has told you (That conservatives only pay lip service to the pro-life crowed to get elected) how about some truth...

In a two-page letter sent to the House speaker, Nancy Pelosi, and the Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, Mr. Bush said his veto threat would apply to any measures that “allow taxpayer dollars to be used for the destruction of human life.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/04/wa...=1&oref=slogin

Ask yourself would a democrat allow public funds to support abortion?

President Bush confirmed at a White House lunch for GOP congressional leaders Monday that as one of his first acts as president he will reinstate the so-called global gag rule, which blocks U.S. funds being given to international family-planning groups that offer abortion and abortion counseling.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...,96275,00.html

Partial birth abortion has been banned.

Ask yourself how this happened. 2 seats on the Supreme Court is why it happened.

This nonsense that the Bush administration has done nothing to stop abortion is almost laughable, not a single pro-choice advocate will agree with you on this.

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I read it and somehow it still doesn't change what I feel and posted about the millions who have been aborted...and the millions who will be aborted after we elect McCain.
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You guys have very hypocrital viewpoints. You go on and on about protecting the lives of the unborn, and then balk at the idea of that baby being guaranteed healthcare by the government. You criticize socialism when it doesn't take a whole of Bible reading to see that God instituted socialistic requirements of the people of Israel. It's like you want to agree with God's principles, but you also want to pick and choose which of those principles are convenient for you. It doesn't cost you anything to be pro-life, so you back that principle, but supporting welfare and other programs that will cost you money are a different story. I'm getting so tired of this merry go 'round with y'all it isn't funny. Don't give some lame excuse that you are supporting righteousness, because you only support the kind of righteousness that doesn't cost you anything.
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Old 08-19-2008, 03:51 PM
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You guys have very hypocrital viewpoints. You go on and on about protecting the lives of the unborn, and then balk at the idea of that baby being guaranteed healthcare by the government. You criticize socialism when it doesn't take a whole of Bible reading to see that God instituted socialistic requirements of the people of Israel. It's like you want to agree with God's principles, but you also want to pick and choose which of those principles are convenient for you. It doesn't cost you anything to be pro-life, so you back that principle, but supporting welfare and other programs that will cost you money are a different story. I'm getting so tired of this merry go 'round with y'all it isn't funny. Don't give some lame excuse that you are supporting righteousness, because you only support the kind of righteousness that doesn't cost you anything.

what a stinking pile of elephant poo!

I guess i am a hypocrit for opposing bank robbery and also oppose government giving cash to poor people with no strings attached.

good grief rico. how silly do you have to get? dude, try your argument out before posting it! people are reading what your write! LOL.


here is the deal Rico. in the first place we are talking about protecting a human life, in the second place we are talking about government taking control of 1/7th of the American Economy with NO PROOF THAT IT WILL WORK!

There is no conservitive that thinks children should be denied healthcare. but what we do not want is BAD LAW that wont fix the problem and will take $$$$$ from our pocket books.

Nice try but your selling snake oil and there aint nobody around here dumb enough to buy it.
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for all those hating the republicans you should research what the demonrats have done in the last 2 years while they have had control of congress.
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and they say the republicans are all about the politics...


IMO, they are much the same.

There is a sign that I notice from time to time on a building that is the headquarters for a nearby town's republican headquarters that makes mention of it being "Lincoln's Party". I balk about every time I see it as I doubt that Lincoln would even recognize what the Republican party is today...

And, well...the governator of CA was correct when he stated, "Democrats are losers."

I am a proudly registered INDEPENDENT!! I have one of the votes that both parties drool over... Losers, both of them...
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Oh, and GOD DID NOT INSTITUTE SOCIALISTIC ANYTING FOR ISRAEL!
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I read it and somehow it still doesn't change what I feel and posted about the millions who have been aborted...and the millions who will be aborted after we elect McCain.
we have made the round stew. if you cant be convinced that is your right. that wont make me stop respecting you.

I simply cannot buy into the notoin that because its been a long time and because mistakes have been made (and admitted to) that this is a reason to abandon a worthy cause by voting for people who are not only avowed abotion supporter but will go so far as infanticide to shield Roe.

that isnt something I can agree with.

Do you argue that GWB has been anything other than fantastically Pro-Life?
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IMO, they are much the same.

There is a sign that I notice from time to time on a building that is the headquarters for a nearby town's republican headquarters that makes mention of it being "Lincoln's Party". I balk about every time I see it as I doubt that Lincoln would even recognize what the Republican party is today...

And, well...the governator of CA was correct when he stated, "Democrats are losers."

I am a proudly registered INDEPENDENT!! I have one of the votes that both parties drool over... Losers, both of them...

and all I am saying is that as an independant you have to see something in John McCain that fits your politics. he isnt typical republican and he bucks anyone that doesnt agree with him.... even if it isnt politically expedient.

like I said, there are things about him I dont agree with, but there is a reason the call him a Mavrick.
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Gods charge is to Christians. NOT the state.
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Oh, and GOD DID NOT INSTITUTE SOCIALISTIC ANYTING FOR ISRAEL!
What do you think the tithe was used for, Ferd? Are you that dense? It wasn't to make the church rich. It was for the poor and needy. It was a WELFARE program instituted by GOD HIMSELF! Go argue with Him and tell Him His ideas are elephant dung. There's a whole lot more God ordered for the poor people than just a tithing program too. How about the welfare system for the widows in the church? That's a NT principle. Is that good enough for you? Good grief! You people are something else!
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