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Old 08-02-2008, 01:14 PM
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I can buy that, but the problem is that so many people are so entrenched that they cannot be objective enough in conversation to even appear balanced. That is what gives the appearance of a koolaid drinker on either side.
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:19 PM
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On this we agree!
To be honest I think that you would be surprised to find out how much we do agree on. I am much more conservative than I come across in these discussions because I tend to end up more aligned in these debates with the liberals. My problem is that I feel too strongly about my conservative moral ideals to allow them to become a campaign tool that leads nowhere.

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Old 08-02-2008, 05:30 PM
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McCain's voting record, or lack thereof
Senator Ted Kennedy, who suffers from a life-threatening brain tumor that requires daily treatment, has now officially voted more times in the last few months than John McCain. And Kennedy's only voted once since being diagnosed on May 20.

Kennedy wanted to make the Senate vote on the recent Medicare bill—which halted a 10% pay cut for physicians who accept Medicare—so badly that he supposedly flew from Massachusetts to DC after the day's treatment, walked onto the Senate floor to a standing ovation, belted out an "Aye," and then flew home immediately after the vote.

McCain? He hasn't showed up to vote since April 8, missing a total of 76 votes.

And we're not talking about inconsequential votes or voting margins large enough for his vote to be inconsequential. When the Senate took up the Medicare bill two weeks ago, it fell short by one vote, and Kennedy and McCain were the only absent Senators.

Here's the attendance record for the 110th Congress according to the Washington Post's database:

John McCain: Missed 374 votes (61.8% of total)
Barack Obama: Missed 263 votes (43.5% of total)

As I've said before, missing a few votes when you're running for president is understandable. But at some point you have to at least attempt to do the job you were elected to do.

My biggest problem with a lot of these discussions is that people are just parroting what they hear or just taking wild guesses. The same institute that we use to label Obama as the most Liberal voter also stated that they were unable to grade McCain in the same time period because he had missed too many votes to register in their format.

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Old 08-02-2008, 05:33 PM
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Go ahead... I have already said we have sickening choice in our presidential candidates. I make no secret of that. I will say, though, that Obama is just an empty shell of a man who is possessed of rhetoric and a call for change with absolutely no substance and I find the thought of such an empty head sitting upon the shoulders of such a great nation reprehensible. He has done NOTHING... Says NOTHING and, in my biased opinion, IS NOTHING... NOTHiNG short of a rabble rouser with the intent to further weaken the patriotism of America and destroy every foundation upon which our nation has been built... all in the name of change and his skewed vision of hope.

I am done...

AFF needs a focused political arena so we who really dislike all this junk aren't tempted to jump in and offend folks!
Brother, I really wish you'd quit beating around the bush and tell us what you really think!
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Very well said. it is obvious who the look-aid drinkers are. We have admitted that the choices for president or poor, that McCain has problems that we do not like. However, he is much better then Obama.

You who support the "chosen one" can find no fault with him. It is obvious that you do not have the ability or will to lay out both candidates and choose the best of the two.

That is a shame, I can only pray that the majority of Americans still love the principles of capitalism, and the principles of God that has made this country great. Because if not, they with your help, will elect a twit that seeks to destroy those great principles.

I am tired of arguing as well. Facts are what they are. Good Day.
McCain is a warmonger who believes in adultery. That's the kind of righteousness you want to support?
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Old 08-02-2008, 07:27 PM
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McCain is a warmonger who believes in adultery. That's the kind of righteousness you want to support?
Obama is a baby murderer and a supporter of gay relationships, and a socialist. You want to be a part of that?
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Obama is a baby murderer and a supporter of gay relationships, and a socialist. You want to be a part of that?
Tell me, exactly how many babies has Obama murdered? I can tell you for a fact that McCain cheated on his wife. That makes him an adulterer. Obama hasn't murdered anyone. Trying to say that Obama being pro-choice makes him a murderer would be the same as trying to say anyone who is in favor of gun rights is also a murderer. The accusation is baseless.

I've got some other shocking news for you too. Your bud McCain is in favor of domestic partnerships. You know, those legally binding contracts gay people get that gives them the same basic rights as a married couple. So much for that argument.

Also, Jesus was the Premier Socialist, so have fun wrapping your politically conservative brain around that one while you convince yourself you're actually voting for rightheousness when you cast your ballot for the warmongering adulterer.
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:21 AM
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Tell me, exactly how many babies has Obama murdered? I can tell you for a fact that McCain cheated on his wife. That makes him an adulterer. Obama hasn't murdered anyone. Trying to say that Obama being pro-choice makes him a murderer would be the same as trying to say anyone who is in favor of gun rights is also a murderer. The accusation is baseless.

I've got some other shocking news for you too. Your bud McCain is in favor of domestic partnerships. You know, those legally binding contracts gay people get that gives them the same basic rights as a married couple. So much for that argument.

Also, Jesus was the Premier Socialist, so have fun wrapping your politically conservative brain around that one while you convince yourself you're actually voting for rightheousness when you cast your ballot for the warmongering adulterer.
You can't tell me anything about McCain that I don't know. Like I have said, he has many flaws, but not as many as Obama.

When you give someone a gun knowing that they are going to use it to kill someone, you have become an accessory to murder.

When you vote for someone who votes for legislation that helps the brains of babies to be sucked out, you have become an accessory to that sin.

McCain, I am sure has repented of anything he did concerning his past. That has been a long time ago.

Obama is presently supporting the murder of babies. So when you vote for him, remember that you are helping to suck the brains and life out of babies.

I'll take a repentant adulterer over that any day.
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You can't tell me anything about McCain that I don't know. Like I have said, he has many flaws, but not as many as Obama.

When you give someone a gun knowing that they are going to use it to kill someone, you have become an accessory to murder.

When you vote for someone who votes for legislation that helps the brains of babies to be sucked out, you have become an accessory to that sin.

McCain, I am sure has repented of anything he did concerning his past. That has been a long time ago.

Obama is presently supporting the murder of babies. So when you vote for him, remember that you are helping to suck the brains and life out of babies.

I'll take a repentant adulterer over that any day.

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You can't tell me anything about McCain that I don't know. Like I have said, he has many flaws, but not as many as Obama.

When you give someone a gun knowing that they are going to use it to kill someone, you have become an accessory to murder.

When you vote for someone who votes for legislation that helps the brains of babies to be sucked out, you have become an accessory to that sin.

McCain, I am sure has repented of anything he did concerning his past. That has been a long time ago.

Obama is presently supporting the murder of babies. So when you vote for him, remember that you are helping to suck the brains and life out of babies.

I'll take a repentant adulterer over that any day.
This is the same lame response you gave in the other thread, to which I replied HOGWASH!
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