Obama's private prayer leaked

[Esther]

Originally Posted by CC1

No conspiracy theory here. I am just saying if he has half a brain he knew there was a good chance a reporter or someone was going to retrieve that piece of paper.

It doesn't make him evil. Anyone in his position would know that and probably make sure they took that into consideration with what they wrote.

Exactly, how many people WRITE their prayers?????

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

This observation is just too astute!

His every move is choreographed! No one could be so dense as to believe that NO ONE on his staff alerted him to the fact that the media could get a hold of that prayer!

I would go so far as to say the secret service likely knew what was on that note.

A wrongly worded note could have far reaching implications from a man as popular as Obama - and they are not all political.

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by Aquila

The point was McCain was a POW and his wife was faithful and stuck it out until he got home....he got home, began having affairs and abandoned his family.

And for that, McCain has paid dearly and has admitted that he was a bonehead! He has never had a cavalier attitude towards it and upon looking back has admitted he was wrong.

I don't think McCain is going to be a great president, but I could be wrong!

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by ChTatum

You are either needing oxygen to support your brain cells or an idiot.

Speak in tongues all you want as you vote for a baby killer.

Readers...this is a perfect example of what's wrong with us. No Pro-Choice Democrat has ever forced a woman to abort. Most Pro-Choice Democrats haven't even had an abortion or know someone close who has. They simply believe that the choice to abort is tied to closely with a woman's health, therefor the choice to abort should belong to individual woman. Here's the truth folks....the truth most don't want to see in a heated political season....Democrats don't kill babies.....WOMEN do. Individual women choose abortion. We could have a government of nothing but Pro-Choice Democrats and everyone woman in America COULD choose not to abort. The blame is with individual women. Don't let propaganda peddlers convince you that Democrats kill babies. That's nothing but a heated, horrible, accusation that isn't grounded in reality. Christians TELL the TRUTH. Here's the truth....woman abort because THEY choose to. No Democrat or Republican makes them.

But here's something EVERYBODY ignores. China forces women to abort at gun point. Yet some politicians are for unregulated trade with China. They want to boost the Chinese economy to help corporate interests who are finding profits on the cheap in China. Let's look at Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart was hailed by Huckabee as being a fine example of American capitalism. But here's the deal....Wal-Mart is a BOOM for the abortion forcing Chinese Government. Does anyone shop at Wal-Mart? Is a person or leader for free trade with China? Would anyone here shop at a company that was booming the economy of Nazi Germany? Does anyone here want unregulated trade with Germany?

Now...since a man's heart is where his money is....who are in coalition with a real baby killing government?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by ChTatum

Apples to oranges.

Don't ever talk to me about Christmas, your credibility is shot. Swallowing a camel and gagging over a gnat.

As to Michelle Obama having had an abortion, I don't know. but Obama's mother should have.

That was a vile statement.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by ChTatum

Pro-choice? Really?

I am too, but the acceptable choices do not include abortion.

According to your above statement, you're for abortion if the fetus is a black man who might run for President. You said it....not me.

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by ChTatum

So being in favor with the majority is a good thing?

NOT.

What are his principles?

What does he Believe?

What does he want to change?

I am NOT a citizen of the world. I am a citizen of the sovereign United States of America, and I could not care less what other countries want.

I owe allegiance to no other country, and when the world is running towards socialism as it's savior, I am proud to stand firmly on the principles that have guided this country.

Had the majority opinion prevailed during the American Revolution, we would still be British subjects.

How about wide is the gate to destruction and man y travel it, but narrow is the way of God and few there be that find it.

Just a post from one of the few.

I'm not saying that the will of the majority is what is biblically correct. But it is the will of the majority that determines are current political situation. And politicians are relecting that will while not personally practicing an issue. For example obama could be pro choice politically while never personally advocating for an abortion. regardless, I'm glad the founders had enough sense to place a barrier between politics and the church.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by MikeinAR

That's very true and some of us don't define a man's morals by one issue. Abortion is wrong and sin. It takes a human life. Other decisions this country's leaders make can also end in destruction and immoral results. Senseless war can lead to the deaths of 10's of thousands of innocent civilians and brave men and women. Refusing to appropriate money for VA hospitals and allowing veterans who've served this country to not be well cared for is sinful. Refusing to properly secure this country's borders and thus allowing crime and violence to reign in border states like Arizona is immoral.

So I guess it depends on the issues that you define your morality by. I choose to make my decisions at the ballot box by abortion and the many other issues that apply.

I've found that Republicans will vote for a man who allows 10's of thousands of innocents to perish in an unjustified war, abandoning our vets, shipping the jobs families depend on overseas, and allow companies to poison our air and water....to avoid a Pro-Choice candidate.

[ChTatum]

Originally Posted by tstew

Okay, I guess I'll just have to "pony up". (whatever that means)

We have hashed this out before, but we did successfully manage to have Republican Presidents select 7 of the 9 current Justices. I personally am not convinced that McCain is going to select any better.
This was not just directed at you. My frustration is that there is lip service that is an effective tool to guarantee support. I am firmly pro-life so what I would like to hear is.

Question: So I understand that you are pro-life.
Candidate: Yes I am
Question: So what exactly are you going to do to end the hundreds of thousands of abortions.
Candidate: (A direct response and some course of action)


And at the end of the day, if the President is not able to substancially affect abortions in our country...we need to quit making it a "free-pass, I'll support you" issue.

OK, let's put abortion on the back burner. How do you feel about higher taxes?

How do you feel about "from those with ability to those with need"?

How do you feel about the government taxing you while you live and taxing your estate AGAIN at your death?

How do you feel about working until June just to pay your taxes?

How do you feel about supporting those who are clearly able to function in society with money TAKEN BY FORCE out of your wallet?

How do you feel about having paid into social security since you were 14, only to have the government change the rules when you reach age 45? Now, you must work until age 67 1/2 to receive full benefits, not the 65 promised when you entered the work force?

How do you feel about the UN telling you how you must conduct yourself to garner world acceptance?

How do you feel about abandoning Israel in favor of appeasing those who wish to wipe "Israel off the face of the earth'?

How do you feel about holding preachers accountable for what the Bible teaches about homosexuality by threatening them with "hate speech"?



Do you really want me to continue?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by ChTatum

Pony up and read the script.

When we had a republican president abd a republican congress, we had a definitive liberal supreme court.

This is where the law would have been struck down.

Study our form of government. The judicial branch as opposed to the executive and legislative branches is where the battle will be fought. The next president will possibly have the ability to appoint one or two supreme court justices. This is where conservative ideals must prevail. There is a light at the end of the tunnel. Walk towards the light.

If you believe a conservative court will ban abortion now, you'll believe anything.