I have lost my will to argue about it. I wonder if that is a temporary thing or something that will last a while.
I don't understand folk that have something then make it their life's work to find the loopholes and exceptions related to not having it.
its one thing to have a discussion with a Baptist fellow about salvation. It is mind numbing vanity to have that same discussion about the Baptist fellow with a fellow Apostolic.
It is one thing to debate/discuss an issue to find deeper meaning, it is quite another to debate to tear down or divide.
I have lost my will to argue about it. I wonder if that is a temporary thing or something that will last a while.
I don't understand folk that have something then make it their life's work to find the loopholes and exceptions related to not having it.
its one thing to have a discussion with a Baptist fellow about salvation. It is mind numbing vanity to have that same discussion about the Baptist fellow with a fellow Apostolic.
I think this is partially because you tend to take other people's word for things when you are a either a) very young or b) a new Christian. At some point, however, everyone (should) make an honest assessment of what they believe based on their own study, conviction and prayerful seeking.
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Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. — André Gide
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds... - Ralph Waldo Emerson
I think this is partially because you tend to take other people's word for things when you are a either a) very young or b) a new Christian. At some point, however, everyone (should) make an honest assessment of what they believe based on their own study, conviction and prayerful seeking.
LOL! I gotta ask, are you using the pronoun "YOU" to mean me, or are you using euphemisticly?
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It is one thing to debate/discuss an issue to find deeper meaning, it is quite another to debate to tear down or divide.
I agree.
However, if an issue is truthful and solid, you cannot tear it down.
When I was in the automotive engineering industry, during the prototype phase of new vehicles, our engineers would do "pull" tests on all of the welds.
They had performed a weld study based on computer calculations, and thought they had sufficient amounts and placements of welds in a particular panel, but the ultimate test was the "pull" test.
In essence, they took a panel, and grabbed it with clamps, pliers, pneumatic chisels, etc and tried to tear it apart. If the panel came apart too easily, it was back to the drawing board, or computer.
But, if they pulled and pulled, applying the same amount of torque and stress that a car may experience during a crash, and the weld spots held true, they knew they had been successful.
Same should be with our idealogies and paradigms.......if they can't stand up to the "pull' test, we probably need to go back to the drawing board.
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However, if an issue is truthful and solid, you cannot tear it down.
When I was in the automotive engineering industry, during the prototype phase of new vehicles, our engineers would do "pull" tests on all of the welds.
They had performed a weld study based on computer calculations, and thought they had sufficient amounts and placements of welds in a particular panel, but the ultimate test was the "pull" test.
In essence, they took a panel, and grabbed it with clamps, pliers, pneumatic chisels, etc and tried to tear it apart. If the panel came apart too easily, it was back to the drawing board, or computer.
But, if they pulled and pulled, applying the same amount of torque and stress that a car may experience during a crash, and the weld spots held true, they knew they had been successful.
Same should be with our idealogies and paradigms.......if they can't stand up to the "pull' test, we probably need to go back to the drawing board.
Yeah, sorry. The "collective" you.
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