Where Was Samuel ? - Page 8

Bro-Larry · #71 07-13-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

why do you say that?

I was checking to see how closely you read. The alleged Samuel said to Saul, "Tomorrow you and your sons will be with me."
If it was a fake Samuel them either it was lying or Saul was probably lost. If it was the real Samuel, then probably Saul was OK. But the devil lies about everything, so you really can't tell for sure.

Bro-Larry · #72 07-13-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

What I'm saying, Larry, is that you have a tendency to rewrite what God is saying in His Word to suit what you think. I've seen you do this on more than one topic. The Bible says it was Samuel speaking to Saul. Instead of taking God's Word at face value, you want to come along and say it wasn't Samuel speaking, but the familiar spirit. The Bible doesn't say that. It says it was Samuel. In order to say it wasn't Samuel, you have to edit the Word to fit what you think it's saying. That, my friend, is dangerous ground to build on. Feel free to edit the Word of God to your heart's content, Larry. Far be it from me to tell you to stop. Don't expect me to go along with it, however.

Please point out, my friend Rico, precisely where Bro-Larry edited the Word.

Rico · #73 07-13-2008, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

Please point out, my friend Rico, precisely where Bro-Larry edited the Word.

This is hilarious. You are doing it on this thread. The Bible says Samuel spoke to Saul and you are saying it wasn't Samuel.

ReformedDave · #74 07-13-2008, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

Please point out, my friend Rico, precisely where Bro-Larry edited the Word.

BL, you have told me several times where you didn't believe the translation was correct but you offer no proof.

Bro-Larry · #75 07-13-2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ReformedDave

BL, you have told me several times where you didn't believe the translation was correct but you offer no proof.

Dave, You are paraphrasing what you think I said.

ReformedDave · #76 07-13-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

Dave, You are paraphrasing what you think I said.

Should I dig up the posts?????

Bro-Larry · #77 07-14-2008, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Should I dig up the posts?????

Go ahead, you won't find where I said those exact words.

Praxeas · #78 07-14-2008, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

I was checking to see how closely you read. The alleged Samuel said to Saul, "Tomorrow you and your sons will be with me."
If it was a fake Samuel them either it was lying or Saul was probably lost. If it was the real Samuel, then probably Saul was OK. But the devil lies about everything, so you really can't tell for sure.

why would he have to be saved? they all went to the place of the grave, not heaven.

Praxeas · #79 07-14-2008, 12:43 AM

Larry and others, can you respond to this post?
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...9&postcount=61

Baron1710 · #80 07-14-2008, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

And Samuel said to Saul,Why hast thou disquited me,to bring me up ? And Saul answered I am sore distressed;for the Phillistines to make war agains't me,and God is departed from me,and answereth no more,neither by prophets,nor by dreams,therefore I have called thee,that thou make known unto me what I shall do. 1.SAM.28:15
OK we know the familiar account how Saul contacted a woman from En-dor with a familiar spirit to contact Samuel see 1 Samuel 28.
My question is where was Samuel when he was contacted,what was he in sheol a place of departed spirits awaiting a resurrection,just where was Samuel resting ? Was he in soul sleep ?

Sometimes the Bible contains lies and nothing is done by the author to correct them. It is my view that when the Scripture contains a statement that is not recording someone else's thought or words then it must be accepted as true even if it doesn't fit our theology. I must accept that it was Samuel. I can't explain it but I don't need to.

I have included an example that I believe is evidence of this. I believe the narrative account of Saul's death is correct and the Bible's accurate recording of someone's words are in fact a lie.

I Samuel 31:4
4 Saul said to his armor-bearer, "Draw your sword and run me through, or these uncircumcised fellows will come and run me through and abuse me."
But his armor-bearer was terrified and would not do it; so Saul took his own sword and fell on it.

II Samuel 1:6-10

6 "I happened to be on Mount Gilboa," the young man said, "and there was Saul, leaning on his spear, with the chariots and riders almost upon him.
7 When he turned around and saw me, he called out to me, and I said, 'What can I do?'
8 "He asked me, 'Who are you?'
" 'An Amalekite,' I answered.
9 "Then he said to me, 'Stand over me and kill me! I am in the throes of death, but I'm still alive.'
10 "So I stood over him and killed him, because I knew that after he had fallen he could not survive. And I took the crown that was on his head and the band on his arm and have brought them here to my lord."