UPC - "Apostolic" Wesleyan Holiness Standards

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

You know good and well what the issue is here and your skirting it. The issue is - They DID NOT make an issue out of the clothes and you do. You have seen the pictures and you guys just cannot deny that your forefathers and their wives wore jewelry and dressed the fashions of the day. They Haney's did it, The Stars did it, the Urshans did it and most of those that came out of the A/G did it and then the Conservatives took over the movement and now you have all these silly rules that most of you can't live by past the city limits you pastor in. Wanna know how I know - I lived with you guys for 20 years - I KNOW you!

You are so right, probably one of the major reason they (UPCI) doesn’t include photos of the women folks from the 50-60's within their literature from the past. Women had cut hair wore jeweler, they look like normal people, they knew what true holiness was, not some false outward guide line. I can look at family pics they didn't separate themselves through a dress code. They knew who their God was and God knew them, they had power, something that is really missing in today Apostolic.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by CupCake

You are so right, probably one of the major reason they (UPCI) doesn’t include photos of the women folks from the 50-60's within their literature from the past. Women had cut hair wore jeweler, they look like normal people, they knew what true holiness was, not some false outward guide line. I can look at family pics they didn't separate themselves through a dress code. They knew who their God was and God knew them, they had power, something that is really missing in today Apostolic.

Now that is worthy of a seperate thread!

BTW for the record. I don't believe I have more power because I don't wear women's clothing or any jewelry!

[rrford]

Originally Posted by CupCake

You are so right, probably one of the major reason they (UPCI) doesn’t include photos of the women folks from the 50-60's within their literature from the past. Women had cut hair wore jeweler, they look like normal people, they knew what true holiness was, not some false outward guide line. I can look at family pics they didn't separate themselves through a dress code. They knew who their God was and God knew them, they had power, something that is really missing in today Apostolic.

LOL! Now we are going from Goss's recollections of the early 1900's to what happened in the 1950's and 60's? Can someone clarify what years we are actually speaking of here?

I feel that people down playing holiness are the attackers. This spirit is directly attacking the biblical truths of modesty,holiness, and separation.

We need more APOSTOLICS to stand for what is right and not setback and let wolves destroy God's people with artificial turf.

Watchmen were set up by God the CRY OUT against dangerous doctrines and the teachers of such.

I have tried to be politically correct to long. It is time to stand a say leave the ancient landmarks ALONE.

They are not for sale, debate, or compromise. They are simply to be obeyed.
We are not dealing here with out right sinners who don't know God or his word. We are dealing with them who have forsaken the old paths of God's righteousness and truth and justfy with saying they have a better understanding or a liberated mentality.

To win the lost with a watered down half truth only makes the twice the child of hell.

They want to know truth. Pure unadulterated,unprostitued, and uncompromised TRUTH.

This is what the Acts 2:38, Holiness,Modesty, and separation from the world doctrine is.

In Christ service,

[rrford]

Originally Posted by Gary Blacksher

I feel that people down playing holiness are the attackers. This spirit is directly attacking the biblical truths of modesty,holiness, and separation.

We need more APOSTOLICS to stand for what is right and not setback and let wolves destroy God's people with artificial turf.

Watchmen were set up by God the CRY OUT against dangerous doctrines and the teachers of such.

I have tried to be politically correct to long. It is time to stand a say leave the ancient landmarks ALONE.

They are not for sale, debate, or compromise. They are simply to be obeyed.
We are not dealing here with out right sinners who don't know God or his word. We are dealing with them who have forsaken the old paths of God's righteousness and truth and justfy with saying they have a better understanding or a liberated mentality.

To win the lost with a watered down half truth only makes the twice the child of hell.

They want to know truth. Pure unadulterated,unprostitued, and uncompromised TRUTH.

This is what the Acts 2:38, Holiness,Modesty, and separation from the world doctrine is.

In Christ service,

Great. But is the quote anywhere in the hardback copy?

Originally Posted by rrford

LOL! Now we are going from Goss's recollections of the early 1900's to what happened in the 1950's and 60's? Can someone clarify what years we are actually speaking of here?

This is another lie!

You can get biographies of Apostolic families, revivals, campmeetings, and churches that prove this to be a pure lie.

Originally Posted by Gary Blacksher

I feel that people down playing holiness are the attackers. This spirit is directly attacking the biblical truths of modesty,holiness, and separation.

Nope. You're wrong.

Holiness and seperation are not being attacked or downplayed.

Your misunderstanding of what holiness and seperation is... is what is being attacked.

Originally Posted by rrford

Great. But is the quote anywhere in the hardback copy?

What are u talking about?

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Gary Blacksher

I feel that people down playing holiness are the attackers. This spirit is directly attacking the biblical truths of modesty,holiness, and separation.

We need more APOSTOLICS to stand for what is right and not setback and let wolves destroy God's people with artificial turf.

Watchmen were set up by God the CRY OUT against dangerous doctrines and the teachers of such.

I have tried to be politically correct to long. It is time to stand a say leave the ancient landmarks ALONE.

They are not for sale, debate, or compromise. They are simply to be obeyed.
We are not dealing here with out right sinners who don't know God or his word. We are dealing with them who have forsaken the old paths of God's righteousness and truth and justfy with saying they have a better understanding or a liberated mentality.

To win the lost with a watered down half truth only makes the twice the child of hell.

They want to know truth. Pure unadulterated,unprostitued, and uncompromised TRUTH.

This is what the Acts 2:38, Holiness,Modesty, and separation from the world doctrine is.

In Christ service,

Awesome!!! Thank God for men like you to join us! Welcome and please do not be daunted or frustrated by those who disagree with you, stand strong and hold your ground.

By the way, I disagree with alot of what you said but awesome post nonetheless!

Originally Posted by Ronzo

Nope. You're wrong.

Holiness and seperation are not being attacked or downplayed.

Your misunderstanding of what holiness and seperation is... is what is being attacked.

I like your pic. Probably talking to you is about like getting life out of that horse.

You are the misinformed. I was part of that world and I know how to be apart of it if I wanted to.

But thank God I know how not to.

I serve Jesus Christ who had much for the lost but very little for the false teachers that perverts God's word, way, and statues with ungodly compromise.