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06-08-2008, 11:33 PM
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Re: Christ Church Pastor Change
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I will disagree with you on the bolded part. I've been to trinity churches and they teach it every time they say, "In the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost." They say that a lot when they pray, they include it in their preaching, and in their speech in general.
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Of course we ARE talking about the speech of Jesus Christ here... are we to think He was a "Trinitarian" promoter?
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06-08-2008, 11:38 PM
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Re: Christ Church Pastor Change
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Of course we ARE talking about the speech of Jesus Christ here... are we to think He was a "Trinitarian" promoter?
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ROFL!!! I know. I find myself taking offense at things said in trinny churches only to discover the same verbage reading the bible.
My decades of conditioning worked!
I get aggravated when trinnies start having God the father talk to Jesus the Son and if he's not too busy to also bring the Holy Spirit into the mix but then Jesus speaks quite often of the Father in a seperate sense in the New Testament. More of a seperation that most OP's feel comfortable with.
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06-08-2008, 11:42 PM
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Re: Christ Church Pastor Change
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Of course we ARE talking about the speech of Jesus Christ here... are we to think He was a "Trinitarian" promoter?
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17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
Col 3:17 (KJV)
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06-08-2008, 11:53 PM
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Re: Christ Church Pastor Change
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ROFL!!! I know. I find myself taking offense at things said in trinny churches only to discover the same verbage reading the bible.
My decades of conditioning worked!
I get aggravated when trinnies start having God the father talk to Jesus the Son and if he's not too busy to alos bring the Holy Spirit into the mix but then Jesus speaks quite often of the Father in a seperate sense in the New Testament. More of a seperation that most OP's feel comfortable with.
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exactly.
We did something interesting in our Easter drama this year... with Jesus saying “Have I been with you such a long time, and do you not know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father. How do you say, ‘Show us the Father?’
Then He continued... "Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
12Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father." 
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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06-09-2008, 08:13 AM
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Re: Christ Church Pastor Change
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exactly.
We did something interesting in our Easter drama this year... with Jesus saying “Have I been with you such a long time, and do you not know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father. How do you say, ‘Show us the Father?’
Then He continued... "Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
12Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father." |
What are trying to say?
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06-09-2008, 09:01 AM
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Re: Christ Church Pastor Change
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For a dinner @ Ruth's Chris, I would run around ANY church a bunch of times!!!! Name the church and the place!!!!  |
me too, fabulous, just fabulous, lol,dt
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06-09-2008, 09:09 AM
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Re: Christ Church Pastor Change
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What are trying to say?
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Probably that we were brought up to be so conditioned against Father/Son that we usually try to stay away from these scriptures.
There is a definite distinction in Scripture between Father and Son; you can't get around it. But I do not believe that they are separate mindsets, separate personalities, separate thought patterns like some do. You cannot separate their thinking. I think Jesus was the fleshly manifestation of God Himself. IT'S A MYSTERY!!!!
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06-09-2008, 09:15 AM
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Re: Christ Church Pastor Change
ahh yes a great mystery, the dichotomy of the god head, yet just One, dt
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06-09-2008, 09:28 AM
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Re: Christ Church Pastor Change
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Quite simply that the "I go unto my Father" scriptures are not exactly candy-stick Oneness scriptures traditionally, especially for those who have taught Jesus IS the Father.
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06-09-2008, 09:29 AM
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Re: Christ Church Pastor Change
I thought Father Son and Holy Ghost refered to Him...He is all this and more.
Well that is just a thought...am still traveling...stopped at a little place where they are lettting me use their internet.
Maybe CC might want an woman for the pastor..Maybe they should send me the papers to fill out...ha...boy that would be a change!
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