In The Counsel of Many

[Bro-Larry]

Originally Posted by Esther

What about the scripture that says the gifts are without repentance, or another way of saying it is the gifts are not taken away from you? That would mean the person is in ownership of that gift, would it not?

And yes I agree it is the Holy Ghost that gives you the wisdom and power to operate in that gift, BUT I have heard backsliders that are still able to operate in their gift. For example, a person operating in the gift of knowledge, often still operates with that gift, now whether it is the human spirit, demonic spirit or whatever, I can't say, but only know they claim and have shown they operate in those gifts.

Now take for example Timlan. I never knew him when he was in the church, but I suspect he was used in the gift of prophecy. I saw him prophesy, if you will, about a situation that would happen with some posters here, that came about just like he said it would.

Now he could have just used human reasoning to come up with his acturate outcome???

The other consideration is if a person has operated in the gift for years, does it become a learned behavior, and less relying on the Holy Ghost?

Sister E, Your post supports, what I believe about "backsliders". I don't believe a person loses his salvation, or the Holy Ghost, or their ability to operate in the gifts of the Spirit, when they are not doing what they perceive is right. Often, however, they will suppress the operation, because of condemnation. I believe condemnation is at the root of almost everything which is spiritually adverse.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Esther

Yes, for me it is a feeling. Not everyone has the same exact sign, as far as I know.

How trustworthy are 'feelings'?

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

Sister E, Your post supports, what I believe about "backsliders". I don't believe a person loses his salvation, or the Holy Ghost, or their ability to operate in the gifts of the Spirit, when they are not doing what they perceive is right. Often, however, they will suppress the operation, because of condemnation. I believe condemnation is at the root of almost everything which is spiritually adverse.

I am leaning more toward what you are saying, but not sure about how far yet.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

How trustworthy are 'feelings'?

Ask the cowboys don't you know their "gut" feeling saved many a life?

I think they are very trustworthy IF you heed them.

[Esther]

You know Dave I would have loved for your father to have answered these questions.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Esther

Ask the cowboys don't you know their "gut" feeling saved many a life?

I think they are very trustworthy IF you heed them.

Mere opinion. I prefer something more objective.

BTW, how many cowboys got a 'feeling' without anything happening?

[Esther]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Mere opinion. I prefer something more objective.

BTW, how many cowboys got a 'feeling' without anything happening?

lol I have no idea didn't you read LL books?

More objective in what way?

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Esther

You know Dave I would have loved for your father to have answered these questions.

I've heard him state many times that he was always skeptical/careful of impressions, dreams, etc. He stated that many times he felt they were caused by pizza!

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Esther

lol I have no idea didn't you read LL books?

More objective in what way?

Actually I loved the 'Chick Bowdrie' series.

I'll stick to Scripture.

[Bro-Larry]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Me??? Use sarcasm????? No way!

Timmy, you continue to amaze me with your insight. Do you intentionally mask it with your writing style, so that you don't come across as a "known-it-all"... like.....uh...say...B/L?