I think there have been several issues along the way but there is a difference in someone claiming that someone will be healed, and them not being healed and Jesus who spoke only what he heard from the Father healing only selected individuals. Everyone not being healed in a healing service (or whatever you want to call it) is certainly not proof that they are not annointed by God.
I have had both experiences with people who are used in the gifts. One time a well know evangelist in the UPCI prophesied over my wife that the doctor had told her she couldn't have kids but she would. He was wrong, no doctor had ever told her that. We also had an experience with a "charismatic" evangelist that quoted word for word the conversation my wife and I had had that morning, and helped give us the Lord's direction in a decision we were making. Sometimes men miss. Jesus didn't.
Never argue with an idiot.
They'll pull you down to their level,
Then beat you with experience!!
I appreciate the term.. idiot.... If I responded so personally to everyone on this board.. I would become like so many others..... why must everything be personal?
I appreciate the term.. idiot.... If I responded so personally to everyone on this board.. I would become like so many others..... why must everything be personal?
Why must you take everything personally? She didn't say who she thought was an idiot. Maybe she thinks I am an idiot, for all we know.
Poor, Pitiful, Brainwashed, Branhamites... Trying to show Jesus as being impotent in power, in order to justify the works or the lack thereof, of a false prophet.
The fact is... at the moment they wanted Lazarus JESUS COULD NOT because the FATHER would not allow this healing.. it was BEFORE THE TIME.. it was not in the FATHERS WILL for LAZARUS to be healed and Jesus said -- I ONLY DO WHAT MY FATHER TELLS ME and I argue he couldnt have healed Lazarus if he wanted to....
the same applies to many who attend great healing meetings... if Gods will is for the sickness to remain it will REMAIN and CANNOT BE HEALED
Now argue with clear and simple logic
You are deviating from the original argument which was that Branham declared many people healed who in fact were not. You then claimed that Jesus did the same thing but have yet to prove it with scripture, instead going off on rabbit trails that lead to a totally different conclusion.
The above has never been argued against on this thread. Go back to the original statements.
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Baron,, this was my entire point.. presented my more concisely by you...
This entire debate began when I was responding to one poster who said if Branham had a true gift from God why was not everyone healed.....
in my effort to show that many times, healing is not available because the WILL OF GOD is not always known... and thus no meeting will ever produce 100% healings in a service...
Read the thread title. It's clear you were speaking of the powerlessness of Jesus Christ. That's NOT what Baron is referring to, nor have you alluded to such in any of your posts. You have been claiming that Jesus was powerless to heal people who wanted healing.
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I understand that many were not healed by Jesus because he passed them by, but Never, Nada, No not one person that Jesus prayed for ever left him without healing. He NEVER MISSED ONE TIME!
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